>But if you think that a Java based UI would work and look as well as our >current AIR based installer, we should definitely explore the idea.
Not as flashy as the AIR installer, but it could look well (see Oracle java-based installers, for example). However, I will not explore the idea in the short term, as there is another approach (ant_on_air) that is almost operational, thanks to Alex great job. My intention was rather to present an alternative in case we hit an impossibility with ant_on_air, or if it becomes too complex. I would say keep the idea of "java-UI installer" up our sleeves ... Regards, Maurice -----Message d'origine----- De : omup...@gmail.com [mailto:omup...@gmail.com] De la part de OmPrakash Muppirala Envoyé : dimanche 15 décembre 2013 18:01 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: Installer Revisited On Dec 15, 2013 8:37 AM, "Alex Harui" <aha...@adobe.com> wrote: > > Yup, good point. If someday the installer can be cross-compiled to > something that isn't based on AIR, that would be a good thing. FlexJS > is hoping to use Cordova for mobile AIR apps, not sure how well that > works for desktop apps. > > On 12/15/13 8:29 AM, "aYo ~" <a...@binitie.com> wrote: > > >That's a bloody good point > > > >aYo > >www.ayobinitie.com > >mrbinitie.blogspot.com > >On 15 Dec 2013 15:52, "Maurice Amsellem" > ><maurice.amsel...@systar.com> > >wrote: > > > >> Understood. > >> > >> Is there also a goal with FlexJS to remove dependencies to Adobe > >> proprietary software? > >> In which case, would it make sense that the installer won't be > >> based solely on Adobe technology? I think that is a bit of a stretch. There is no such official goal for the Apache Flex project. Phonegap is also an Adobe product, so I don't know where that leaves us. But if you think that a Java based UI would work and look as well as our current AIR based installer, we should definitely explore the idea. Thanks, Om > >> > >> Maurice > >> > >> -----Message d'origine----- > >> De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com] Envoyé : dimanche 15 > >> décembre 2013 16:35 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: Installer > >> Revisited > >> > >> Ah, sorry, missed seeing that earlier. > >> > >> My personal goal is that, someday, a newbie's initial experience > >>when coming to Apache Flex to learn about Flex is a showcase for > >>Flex. That our current landing page is fully replicated by FlexJS, > >>and our installer is an example of an AIR app. > >> > >> So, I would not want to go down the Java UI path. But if it turns > >>out it is impossible/impractical to accomplish something in AIR, we > >>can certainly consider native process or native extensions to run > >>some java code. > >>That > >> would also be an example of how to write an AIR app. > >> > >> -Alex > >> > >> On 12/15/13 4:50 AM, "Maurice Amsellem" > >> <maurice.amsel...@systar.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> >Any reaction to the Java-based installer proposition below > >> >(Point B) > >>? > >> > > >> >Maurice > >> > > >> >-----Message d'origine----- > >> >De : Maurice Amsellem [mailto:maurice.amsel...@systar.com] > >> >Envoyé : jeudi 12 décembre 2013 09:17 À : dev@flex.apache.org > >> >Objet : RE: Installer Revisited > >> > > >> >(Point A) > >> > > >> >>I thought Air followed redirects. There must be code in the installer > >> >>that does the right thing. Feel free to find it and add it if it > >> >>needs it. > >> > > >> >I don't know either if AIR follows redirects or not, but the way > >> >it does was not enough for downloading from sourceforge and we had > >> >to implement a specific solution. > >> >My concern is that it's really specific, and difficult to make generic. > >> > > >> >Another point is that current Installer has conditional logic ( > >> >eg. if already downloaded, don't download again) that will need to > >> >be implemented in ant_on_air. > >> >It's also missing <parallel> functionality, that would speed up > >>downloads. > >> >And I am sure that we will discover other things... > >> >As you say, it's brand new stuff. > >> > > >> >------ > >> >(Point B) > >> >So may I open the discussion on an alternative approach: > >> > > >> >After all, do we absolutely need that the installer be and AIR app? > >> >The ant "core" lib is not that big (a few MB) so maybe we could > >> >build the installer as a JAVA GUI app instead of an AIR app, that > >> >embeds the ANT lib. > >> > > >> >I am not saying this will be easy, but at least it will be > >> >guaranteed to have the same behavior, and opens up a full range of > >> >possibilities. > >> > > >> >Thoughts ? > >> > > >> >Maurice > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >
