On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote:
> Can you or Om pursue that angle? I am planning on catching up with Gavin on IRC. I will ask him about this. Thanks, Om > To me the key things we want are a > Flex-only box so we don't have to worry about pollution from other > projects, and total administration control. Infra can have admin rights > and can forbid us from doing certain network/security things, but > otherwise, we need to be able to do anything we could do on our MSDN Azure > Vms. > > -Alex > > On 4/17/14 12:14 PM, "Nicholas Kwiatkowski" <nicho...@spoon.as> wrote: > > >They did say that they have some relationship with Microsoft for Azure > >boxes as well. Nobody has taken them up on it, but it might be something > >to ask -- that way you don't have to do it on your own dime when we go > >over.. > > > >-Nick > > > > > >On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote: > > > >> OK, so what do others think? I'm totally fine with taking my Azure VM > >>and > >> turning it into the 'official' Flex CI server. We can try a 'medium' > >> instance and see if it falls behind as we add more checkintests on the > >> FlexJS side, and if we need to upgrade to 'large' I'll pay for it > >>myself. > >> > >> It just seems like it will take less of our time than working with > >>Apache > >> Builds. For FlexJS we are probably going to want to install and > >>maintain > >> a variety of browsers. Right now we've disabled the FlexJS checkintest > >>on > >> Apache Builds because it didn't run and there was no simple way for me > >>to > >> debug it. I assume we really do want to run some sanity tests for each > >> build, yes? > >> > >> -Alex > >> > >> On 4/17/14 12:00 PM, "Erik de Bruin" <e...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote: > >> > >> >Max 10 - 20 Euros. > >> > > >> >EdB > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote: > >> > > >> >> Erik, > >> >> > >> >> If you didn't switch over to medium during the month, what do you > >>think > >> >> you'd end up paying each month? > >> >> > >> >> -Alex > >> >> > >> >> On 4/17/14 11:49 AM, "Erik de Bruin" <e...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Nothing. > >> >> > > >> >> >If you run a "medium" instance, it will be more than plenty powerful > >> >>to do > >> >> >all build tasks whenever needed. And with the "free credits" that > >>come > >> >> >with > >> >> >the committer MSDN licences you can run a "medium" instance for > >>about > >> >>1.5 > >> >> >months every month ;-) > >> >> > > >> >> >EdB > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> > >>wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> How much would it cost me to use my Azure VM instead of the Apache > >> >>build > >> >> >> server? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On 4/17/14 11:39 AM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bigosma...@gmail.com> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> > >> >>wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> I guess my question is: what are the tradeoffs of getting a > >> >> >>flex-only CI > >> >> >> >> server on my Azure VM vs relying on Apache? > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >One disadvantage is that with Azure VM, we tend to run out of > >>free > >> >> >>credits > >> >> >> >around the 20th of each month. Erik usually avoids this by > >> >>switching > >> >> >>from > >> >> >> >Large to Medium on a particular date every month. A medium sized > >> >> >>instance > >> >> >> >cannot run Mustella as fast as a Large instance. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >My plan is to: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Use Apache's build servers to - > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >1. Run sdk build for every checkin > >> >> >> >2. Create release artifacts > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Use Azure VMs to - > >> >> >> >1. Run Mustella tests > >> >> >> >2. Build a network of slaves to run Mustella faster by > >>distributing > >> >> >>tests > >> >> >> >across slaves. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Thanks, > >> >> >> >Om > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> At Apache, we keep seeing other projects have build issues and > >> >> >>require > >> >> >> >> configuration changes that block us. And as Om just pointed > >>out, > >> >> >>once > >> >> >> >> Infra has some other fire to fight, we can't get any support > >>from > >> >> >>them. > >> >> >> >> I > >> >> >> >> keep thinking it will be less total energy to use a Flex-only > >> >>Azure > >> >> >>VM. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> -Alex > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> On 4/17/14 11:26 AM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" > >><bigosma...@gmail.com> > >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski > >> >> >> >> ><nicho...@spoon.as>wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> I was talking to some of the people at a.o. infra on IRC and > >> >>they > >> >> >> >> >>mentioned > >> >> >> >> >> that they have a new Windows VM that they launched for CI > >> >> >>services... > >> >> >> >> >>They > >> >> >> >> >> are looking for people to help them test it out and get it > >> >>setup. > >> >> >> >>Do we > >> >> >> >> >> have any interest in that? They would like to get this > >>setup > >> >>to > >> >> >>help > >> >> >> >> >>with > >> >> >> >> >> some of the issues with the current instability of the > >>Windows > >> >>CI > >> >> >> >>server > >> >> >> >> >> that is out there. They are offering direct access to the > >> >>slave > >> >> >> >> >>servers, I > >> >> >> >> >> believe. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> The contact is gmcdonald. He can be reached at builds@a.o. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Yes, I am in the thread with Gavin on builds@a.o. I popped > >>into > >> >> IRC > >> >> >> >>last > >> >> >> >> >night, they were firefighting the CMS issue, so couldn't start > >> >>the > >> >> >> >> >conversation with him. I am planning to volunteer my time to > >> >>help > >> >> >>with > >> >> >> >> >this. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >Thanks, > >> >> >> >> >Om > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> -Nick > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >-- > >> >> >Ix Multimedia Software > >> >> > > >> >> >Jan Luykenstraat 27 > >> >> >3521 VB Utrecht > >> >> > > >> >> >T. 06-51952295 > >> >> >I. www.ixsoftware.nl > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> >-- > >> >Ix Multimedia Software > >> > > >> >Jan Luykenstraat 27 > >> >3521 VB Utrecht > >> > > >> >T. 06-51952295 > >> >I. www.ixsoftware.nl > >> > >> > >
