Nope, the unstable runs cause the entire Jenkins/Java/Apache stack to
crumble every few days. I was away from computer for a few days, but there
were no runs successful and I just logged in to the VM only to see a huge
Java RTE dialog up. Rebooting as we speak, let's see what happens then.

EdB




On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <nicho...@spoon.as>
wrote:

> Have we been getting cleans passes of Mustella yet?  I've got a few changes
> I have been working on in another branch that I want to merge in if we
> are..
>
> -Nick
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
> > I think I understand.  IMO, it still feels worth it to me to maintain the
> > old behavior, even if it had issues, and find a way to switch to new
> > behavior and make the new behavior the default.
> >
> > -Alex
> >
> > On 6/6/14 4:55 PM, "Michael A. Labriola" <labri...@digitalprimates.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >>I haven't looked at the failing tests, but could it be true that those
> > >>tests are not using XMLListCollection directly?  They may wrap the XML
> > >>in an XMLListCollection or just pass XML directly into the control
> where
> > >>it gets wrapped, and then they manipulate the XML?  I think there are
> > >>lots of people doing that sort of thing so we should not break them.
> > >
> > >>You could be right that nobody really uses XMLListCollection today to
> > >>add/remove items.  If you want to gamble that that is the case, I'm
> > >>willing to go along with that, but we should at minimum find a way that
> > >>folks doing the XML manipulation directly don't get broken.
> > >
> > >Alex,
> > >
> > >What I was saying is that anyone who is using the XML directly would
> have
> > >trouble also using the XMLListCollection with it in more than a basic
> > >way.  XMLListCollection actually changes the XML source in unpredictable
> > >ways (re-parenting nodes, etc.)
> > >
> > >So, it's not that I don't think people are using it. I was just saying
> > >that anyone who uses it in a more than a casual manner is either working
> > >around those issues or (as we used to) is making a copy of the XML
> before
> > >XMLListCollection is allowed to touch it so it doesn't screw things up
> > >too badly.
> > >
> > >I don't know the right answer here. Honestly, I think the issue is that
> > >the ListCollection views are trying to overlay a structure that doesn't
> > >actually make sense onto XML. So, I would wager, people are mostly using
> > >it to wrap XML so that it can be viewed in things like Lists/DataGrids.
> > >They _may_ be adding and removing some nodes in a limited capacity, but
> > >most likely they are playing around with the actual XML still since that
> > >is the only way they could do e4x expressions etc.
> > >
> > >Mike
> > >
> >
> >
>



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