Well actually my suggestion has nothing to do with the flex-tool-api.
It's just, that in my impression the manual way of downloading stuff from lots 
of places manually tends to break. We don't seem to have two projects dealing 
with the download of dependencies the same way. A lot of the solutions do stuff 
like check the md5 checksum when downloading, but not verify them when using 
them. So if for example we were to update to libx in version 1.2.3 from libx 
version 1.2.2 the build script would not detect this.

I just want to make things simpler and more reliable. Currently there seem to 
be issues with the ssl handshake of ant get requests on some windows machines. 
Now we have to start fixing all of this whenever it breaks.

The second thing is that we use third party libs and if we want to publish 
maven artifacts we should use the officially available versions of the libs. 

Aether is a core part of Maven and is distributed under the Eclipse Public 
License ... I doubt there should be any trouble with this. 

It's just that my main area of business is making builds more reliable and I 
thought that I'd share some stuff I found out to make our lives with Flex a 
little easier.

I for my part would contribute a lot more, if the build of most of the tools 
wouldn't be such a nightmare to dig though.

Chris

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Von: Alex Harui <[email protected]>
Gesendet: Freitag, 12. Dezember 2014 17:34
An: [email protected]
Betreff: RE: Proposal for cleaning up the downloading of dependencies

Hi Chris,

Way back there were a lot of folks who didn't want Flex Ant scripts to use 
external tasks.  In fact, I just went through and removed the BlazeDS Ant 
script's dependency on antcontrib.  So it would be interesting to see whether 
folks want to learn how pom.xml files work and have this extra dependency.

Also some of the install scripts like the one for Falcon use the download.xml 
files, so I think that would mean that folks would have to download aether or 
the install script has to download it and warn folks it has a different 
license.  Does aether also require any downloading of Maven jars?

Is the main issue with the flex-tool-api download that we just didn't have the 
URL set correctly?  Once we get it right it should work reliably, no?  If your 
main point is to download as many dependencies from maven central instead of 
archive.a.o, I'd be ok with changing the URLs we are currently using in our get 
tasks to point to maven central.

-Alex

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From: Christofer Dutz [[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 5:19 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Proposal for cleaning up the downloading of dependencies

Hi,


I am currently unable to participate on this list the same way I was used to 
for the last months. But the project I am currently working on is migrating an 
insanely large and complex Ant build to maven. For this we are implementing 
several steps. One I think could really be benefitial to the Flex project.


Currently we download third party libs using "get" (See other problem thread in 
paralell). A lot of projects in the Ant world use Ivy for this. But still with 
Ivy we were having great problems. I managed to switch my customers build to 
using Aether-Ant-Tasks and to use Aether (The part of Maven for downloading and 
dependency resolution and deployment) for resolving the dependencies.


Currently I have added one pom.xml to each module, in which I define the 
dependencies of that module using normal Maven dependencies. In the ant build 
all I have to do, is to call the "aether:resolve" task to resolve all the 
dependencies defined in the pom.xml I pass in as an argument. Then all is 
downloaded correctly and copied to a lib-directory that I specify.


If we were to adapt this pattern (I be we can't for all deps - such as 
playerglobal, but for most of them). As a result we would make sure the build 
uses artifacts that maven would too, we wouldn't have to rely that much on 
maintaining a large set of external sites and we would get maven artifacts 
almost for free.


What do you think? I'm not talking about switching to Maven, just to use pars 
of maven for handling the downloading of most of the artifacts we rely on.


Chris

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