Looking forward to whatever you can contribute. -Alex
On 3/23/15, 1:56 AM, "TeotiGraphix" <teotigraphix...@gmail.com> wrote: >Thanks Alex, you pretty much just reiterated what I thought in my head. > >As far as Randori, that was a kcikass IntelliJ plugin that I started and >Frederic Thomas put a huge amount of time it. We had the cross compiler >hooked up, I created "bundles" and "library bundles" that were integrated >into the IDE..... Ah open source, the pain and agony of retrospect. > >I also don't need a lesson in what community driven means, just that I >think you know me and I am really just trying to figure out "what" I would >do with it if I put the time in. > >I am good at seeing down the road, I know if IntelliJ supported FlexJS, >that would be a huge road to at least getting a dev environment going >where >you could actually feel like you were using a professional IDE to take it >beyond a alpha experiment. > >The way I see it is, I need to find a pet project, something I have been >interested in is Web Audio. I might do some research into it(I haven't >been >doing that javascript stuff) and it could be a jump starter focus thing >for >me. > >Seems like for me to do this right I just need to do a lot of research >with >what is written so far with the compiler emitters and your component >framework. > >Mike > > > > >On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 1:28 AM, Alex Harui [via Apache Flex Development] >< >ml-node+s2333347n45715...@n4.nabble.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On 3/22/15, 4:49 AM, "TeotiGraphix" <[hidden email] >> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=45715&i=0>> wrote: >> >> >Well I voted for it. >> > >> >To be honest, I am still in the complete dark with FlexJS, what/how it >> >does >> >what it does and the new component model. I just thought i would drop >> this >> >line to see what the happenings are currently. >> >> There’s information on the wiki: >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/FlexJS >> >> But in short, FlexJS uses a combination of cross-compilation and class >> substitution. As you may know, the Falcon compiler has the notion of >> compilation units. There are compilation units from SWCs and >>compilation >> units from MXML and AS. Falcon converts MXML and AS to ABC and combines >> it with the ABC from the SWCs and outputs a SWF. >> >> FalconJX converts MXML and AS to JS, but for SWC compilation units, it >> tries to find a JS file of the same name. IOW, >> org.apache.flex.core.UIBase.as is expected to have an >> org.apache.flex.core.UIBase.js. Some of those JS files are created by >> cross-compiling AS to JS in library projects. >> >> > >> >I helped write the Randori IntelliJ plugin with doublefx back in 2013. >> >That >> >plugin used the FalconJX cross compiler and it worked awesome, just >> nobody >> >wanted to use Randori. That was like 600+ hours of my time down the >>drain >> >with the plugin and actually writing FalconJX. >> > >> >So in a way, I am trying to weigh the pluses and minuses about >>developing >> >something that might not get used. >> >> Maybe some of that can be repurposed for FlexJS. The gotcha of >> volunteer-driven technology is that if nobody works on it, it will never >> get used, but the cool thing about Apache projects is that “everyone” >>can >> contribute and those who contribute can help make it something they >>want. >> >> >How would FlexJS integrate with WebGL? I am naive about this. >> >> Well, I don’t know anything about WebGL, but essentially, any common >> pattern of code in any language should be encapsulated. For JS, if you >> can stick a class-like API surface on that encapsulation, then you can >> emulate or mock that thing in AS. >> >> So if you always write the same sequence of JS code to draw a 3D sphere >>of >> a color, radius, and light source, you might write in JS: >> >> Sphere = function() >> { >> } >> >> Sphere.prototype.drawSphere = function (color, radius, lightSource) >> { >> // whatever WebGL and other code you need >> } >> >> And in AS you would write: >> >> Class Sphere >> { >> function drawSphere(color:int, radius:Number, >> lightSource:Coordinate):void >> { >> // code that does the equivalent for Flash. >> } >> } >> >> The reason I said “mock” is because, if you don’t actually care about >>the >> SWF version, you can just write a mock that saves enough space on the >> screen or does a cheap emulation of the JS version just so the person >> using the library can exercise the rest of their logic. This is the key >> thing for FlexJS: we are trying to make it more efficient to write the >> code you use to glue other people’s code together. The AS VM’s verifier >> helps you by finding API surface incompatibilities sooner than you might >> otherwise. >> >> -Alex >> >> > >> >Mike >> > >> >On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 6:57 AM, piotrz [via Apache Flex Development] < >> >[hidden email] <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=45715&i=1>> >> wrote: >> > >> >> Hi Mike, >> >> >> >> I am glad that another person is intrested to helping out with >>FlexJS! >> >>:) >> >> We are growing! :) >> >> Voting on this ticket would be for sure help to get closer support >>for >> >> FlexJS in Intellij. >> >> https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-116986 >> >> >> >> They need to know how much we wanted to this feature. :) >> >> >> >> Thank you and Good Luck with setup! :) >> >> Piotr >> >> Apache Flex PMC >> >> [hidden email] <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=45715&i=2> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the >> >>discussion >> >> below: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>http://apache-flex-development.2333347.n4.nabble.com/FlexJS-compiler-tp45 >> >>680p45700.html >> >> To unsubscribe from FlexJS compiler, click here >> >> >> >>< >> >>WlsLmNvbXw0NTY4MHwxMjE5OTE3NzQ2> >> >> . >> >> NAML >> >> >> >>< >> >><http://apache-flex-development.2333347.n4.nabble.com/template/NamlServle >>> >> http://apache-flex-development.2333347.n4.nabble.com/template/NamlServle >> >>>>t.jtp?macro=macro_viewer&id=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.naml&base=nab >>>>bl >> >> >>>>e.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespa >>>>ce >> >> >>>>-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespace&breadcrumbs=notify_subscribers% >>>>21 >> >> >>>>nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_e >>>>ma >> >> >>il%21nabble%3Aemail.naml> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >-- >> >View this message in context: >> > >> >>http://apache-flex-development.2333347.n4.nabble.com/FlexJS-compiler-tp45 >>6 >> >80p45701.html >> >Sent from the Apache Flex Development mailing list archive at >>Nabble.com. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the >>discussion >> below: >> >> >>http://apache-flex-development.2333347.n4.nabble.com/FlexJS-compiler-tp45 >>680p45715.html >> To unsubscribe from FlexJS compiler, click here >> >><http://apache-flex-development.2333347.n4.nabble.com/template/NamlServle >>t.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code&node=45680&code=dGVvdGlncmFwaGl4bGxjQGdtY >>WlsLmNvbXw0NTY4MHwxMjE5OTE3NzQ2> >> . >> NAML >> >><http://apache-flex-development.2333347.n4.nabble.com/template/NamlServle >>t.jtp?macro=macro_viewer&id=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.naml&base=nabbl >>e.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace >>-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespace&breadcrumbs=notify_subscribers%21 >>nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_ema >>il%21nabble%3Aemail.naml> >> > > > > >-- >View this message in context: >http://apache-flex-development.2333347.n4.nabble.com/FlexJS-compiler-tp456 >80p45720.html >Sent from the Apache Flex Development mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
