Hey Carlos, At Apache we are required to use project.apache.org form. So we would be royale.apache.org/.
Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 13, 2017, at 4:03 PM, Carlos Rovira <carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com> > wrote: > > Hi, > > I think we should target as well available domains. You could have a great > name but not a companion domain that would be ok with it. > > When choosing a domain for ROYALE, we should have some options (first > consider that .com is almost impossible today...only very strange names > could have some opportunity and this is not the case, and not what we > really want, so: > > 1) Use "royaleframework.XXX" (for example Spring Framework did just that > http://www.springframework.com), but I don't like that solution, in fact > they changed to what I think is better: > > 2) "royale.XXX" where XXX could be for example ".io", today ".io" is very > normal in technology and is shorter. For the previous example they now are: > http://spring.io/ > > (again we should see what other respected and great frameworks did in the > past and copy what we think is ok for us) > > So if we choose 2) We will have "royale.io", that for me is a very > attractive domain. > > Regarding Alex and Dave research, we should think that ROYALE is a word > that we'll end having lots of referrals to many other things. Imagine you > want to name the project "CHEESE"...maybe here you should have to put some > other word to limit collisions (PURPLECHEESE, or whatever...) > > Regarding Macromedia Royale, I think it was an internal codename that never > was registered and the normal rule is put efforts in protect the final > branding name, so we should not be worried about that in case this name is > ok for us. > > > > > 2017-09-14 0:46 GMT+02:00 Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>: > >> Here are the guts of what would I would put in a PODLINGNAMESEARCH for >> Royale. I don't see anything blocking, but I don't know if there is an >> issue with using former Macromedia project code names. It doesn't appear >> that Macromedia registered it. >> >> Interestingly the first definition for "Royale" is not at all what I >> thought [1]. It is for food. But it certainly hasn't stopped lots of >> folks from using the second definition in product names [2]. >> >> EVIDENCE OF OPEN SOURCE ADOPTION >> >> A search on Github for "Royale" returns 705 repositories. The first two >> pages are results seem to have lots of references to a game called "Clash >> Royale" and "Battle Royale". There is one repo for a "React-esque >> framework for Javascript" >> >> There is a Royale project on SourceForge, but it looks empty [4] and a >> "Royale OS" project that is attempting to be an alternative to Windows >> [5]. The link to the website for Royale OS is broken. >> >> EVIDENCE OF REGISTRATION >> >> Royale has been registered multiple times: >> 1) Restaurant and bar services >> 2) Entertainment >> 3) Paints >> 4) Dinnerware >> 5) Wine >> 6) Backpacks >> >> Royale Software was registered but is now deemed "DEAD". >> >> EVIDENCE OF USE ON WORLD WIDE WEB >> >> Google search turned up an "OSRoyale" project [6] and a search for "Royale >> Software" turned up [7]. In addition there are products with "Royal" >> instead of "Royale" like [8] and [9]. >> >> Also Macromedia used "Royale" as the code name for Flex. A search for >> "Macromedia Royale" turns up some hits. >> >> [1] http://www.dictionary.com/browse/royale?s=t >> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royale >> [3] https://github.com/search?p=2&q=Royale&type=Repositories&utf8=✓ >> [4] https://sourceforge.net/projects/royale/ >> [5] https://sourceforge.net/projects/royaleos/?source=directory >> [6] https://www.osroyale.com >> [7] http://pmdtec.com/picofamily/blog/tag/royale/ >> [8] http://linux-royal.net >> [9] https://www.royalapplications.com/ts/mac/features >> >> On 9/13/17, 2:57 PM, "omup...@gmail.com on behalf of OmPrakash Muppirala" >> <omup...@gmail.com on behalf of bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> We could always structure the VOTE like this: >>> >>> 1. Royale >>> 2. XXX >>> 3. YYY >>> 4. FlexJS >>> >>> One vote should answer both questions. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Om >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Piotr Zarzycki >>> <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On the other hand, we have rather majority of voices for do not change >>>> the >>>> name and Alex is right. - I'm seeing more people asking for help with >>>> porting. - We may disappear in the sea of frameworks with changed >>>> name... >>>> >>>> Maybe better have solid framework and invest in current name still with >>>> nice branding. I'm puzzled, so definitely I will give myself at least >>>> one >>>> day more before VOTE. >>>> >>>> Piotr >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2017-09-13 23:31 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>: >>>> >>>>> +1 for Dave's proposition on starting the VOTE for name change. >>>>> >>>>> I would like to also add that Carlos's proposition for help to build >>>> new >>>>> brand triggers me. Peter helped also do understand that we can always >>>> state >>>>> from where we have come and what was our story. >>>>> >>>>> I'm going to change my mind on name changing and pickup "Royale" as >>>> the >>>>> most powerful for the new one. - The main question is can we use it >>>> since >>>>> it was code name of Macromedia Framework ? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Piotr >>>>> >>>>> 2017-09-13 22:59 GMT+02:00 Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net>: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi - >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 13, 2017, at 1:40 PM, Harbs <harbs.li...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Carlos’ argument carries weight to me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If a new name will help motivate him in terms of marketing it, >>>> that’s >>>>>> value I can recognize. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The name is not as important to me as motivating people to be >>>> involved >>>>>> in the project. We can build whatever messages we want around the >>>> name. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Carlos clearly feels more passionate about his position than I do >>>> about >>>>>> mine. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A hesitation I have about picking a new name is that I don’t want >>>> to >>>>>> delay the board’s decision on the new PMC. If we go for a new name >>>> can >>>> we >>>>>> try and pick one quickly? >>>>>> >>>>>> Let's start the FlexJS yes or no vote tonight or tomorrow morning. >>>>>> >>>>>> In parallel we can discuss other names if a new name is the result >>>> then >>>>>> we can immediately start the next vote. We have just enough time. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Dave >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Harbs >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 13, 2017, at 9:20 PM, Carlos Rovira < >>>>>> carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm putting some efforts here since I think this is really >>>> important >>>>>> for >>>>>>>> all of us and for our beloved FlexJS project. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Name, website and all the visuals behind it matters....and is >>>>>> important in >>>>>>>> a way many of us in this community maybe can't imagine. If we >>>> don't >>>>>> get a >>>>>>>> fresh and compelling name and a clean and beautiful site where we >>>>>> explain >>>>>>>> all the great things our technology can do, we are losing our >>>> time, >>>>>> since >>>>>>>> this project will end with the bulk of the others xxxJS projects, >>>> and >>>>>>>> that's even horrible when our tech could be used for things other >>>> than >>>>>> JS!! >>>>>>>> (If we want in future years to make it possible). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> @Alex: I Think we can't have a PROJECT name != of PRODUCT name for >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Piotr Zarzycki >>>>> >>>>> mobile: +48 880 859 557 <+48%20880%20859%20557> >>>>> skype: zarzycki10 >>>>> >>>>> LinkedIn: >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= >> http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linke >>>> din.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cf59f94a5f94b4a692a8c08d4faf2 >> 905 >>>> 2%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0% >> 7C636409367090833789&sdata=3 >>>> q%2B6JEmcUGp14HR4edfufpFv0mfglyQfLksYuWeDKUE%3D&reserved=0 >>>>> >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= >> https%3A%2F%2Fpl.link >>>> edin.com%2Fin%2Fpiotr-zarzycki-92a53552&data=02% >> 7C01%7C%7Cf59f94a5f94b4a6 >>>> 92a8c08d4faf29052%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6364093670 >>>> 90833789&sdata=U%2BWhQzyHpMYYXTa%2B3kji8fM8Q% >> 2Fn6iYseitRusvgsM8E%3D&reser >>>> ved=0> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Piotr Zarzycki >>>> >>>> mobile: +48 880 859 557 >>>> skype: zarzycki10 >>>> >>>> LinkedIn: >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= >> http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linke >>>> din.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cf59f94a5f94b4a692a8c08d4faf2 >> 905 >>>> 2%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0% >> 7C636409367090833789&sdata=3 >>>> q%2B6JEmcUGp14HR4edfufpFv0mfglyQfLksYuWeDKUE%3D&reserved=0 >>>> >>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= >> https%3A%2F%2Fpl.link >>>> edin.com%2Fin%2Fpiotr-zarzycki-92a53552&data=02% >> 7C01%7C%7Cf59f94a5f94b4a6 >>>> 92a8c08d4faf29052%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de >> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C6364093670 >>>> 90833789&sdata=U%2BWhQzyHpMYYXTa%2B3kji8fM8Q% >> 2Fn6iYseitRusvgsM8E%3D&reser >>>> ved=0> >>>> >> >> > > > -- > > <http://www.codeoscopic.com> > > Carlos Rovira > > Director General > > M: +34 607 22 60 05 > > http://www.codeoscopic.com > > http://www.avant2.es > > > Conocenos en 1 minuto! <https://youtu.be/P2IEAYDG5HU> > > > Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario y puede contener > información privilegiada o confidencial. 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