What Stephan mentioned is exactly how I'm planning to implement it,
yes. How do the barriers work with chained tasks and OutputSelectorS?
Or is there no special-case code required?

On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Gyula Fóra <gyula.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Its actually a very different mechanism as watermarks will not block the
> computations
>
> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Matthias J. Sax <
> mj...@informatik.hu-berlin.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I don't understand why we need the same machnism twice in the code...
>> Could checkpoing barrieres and low watermarks be unified (or one build
>> on-top/by-using the other)
>>
>> -Matthias
>>
>>
>> On 05/12/2015 02:47 PM, Gyula Fóra wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Checkpoint barriers are handled directly on top of the network layer and
>> > you are right they work similarly, by blocking input channels until it
>> gets
>> > the barrier from all of them.
>> >
>> > A way of implementing this on the operator level would be by adding a way
>> > to ask the inputreader the channel index of the last record. This way the
>> > operator could keep track of the channels from which it has received
>> > records and execute the watermark logic. The IndexedReaders have
>> > implemented the necessarry funcionality but were patched away
>> accidentally
>> > buy some earlier changes (as they were not used anyway)
>> >
>> > Adding a union operator is probably an overkill and would pose the same
>> > difficulties when implementing it.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Gyula
>> >
>> > On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 2:40 PM, Aljoscha Krettek <aljos...@apache.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Folks,
>> >> as I said in the subject. How will this work? I'm in the process about
>> >> thinking how to implement low watermarks in Streaming. I'm thinking
>> >> that the implementation should be quite similar to how the
>> >> checkpointing barriers will be implemented since they also flush out
>> >> stuff.
>> >>
>> >> Now I'm wondering how this will work with merged Streams and the
>> >> output selectors (split streams). It seems to me that there are a lot
>> >> of paths that elements can take to arrive at operators. The problem I
>> >> have is that an operator can only emit a low watermark itself if it
>> >> knows that all input operators have sent him a low watermark with that
>> >> value (the low watermark is the minimum of the low watermarks of all
>> >> upstream operators). I imagine that the checkpoint barriers exhibit
>> >> the same behaviour.
>> >>
>> >> Do we maybe have to add an explicit union (merge) operator and change
>> >> how split streams are implemented?
>> >>
>> >> What are your thoughts?
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Aljoscha
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>

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