Yes, I forgot to mention that I could instantiate the connection in the
configure() but then I can't close it (as you confirmed) :(

On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 9:46 AM, Aljoscha Krettek <aljos...@apache.org>
wrote:

> There is also InputFormat.configure() which is called before any split
> processing happens. But I see your point about a missing close() method
> that is called after all input splits have been processed.
>
> On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 at 09:44 Stefano Bortoli <s.bort...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Of course there is one already. We'll look into the runtime context.
> >
> > saluti,
> > Stefano
> >
> > 2016-04-18 9:41 GMT+02:00 Stefano Bortoli <s.bort...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > Being a generic JDBC input format, I would prefer to stay with Row,
> > > letting the developer manage the cast according to the driver
> > > functionalities.
> > >
> > > As for the open() and close() issue, I agree with Flavio that we'd
> need a
> > > better management of the inputformat lifecycle. Perhaps a new interface
> > > extending it: RichInputFormat?
> > >
> > > my2c.
> > >
> > > Stefano
> > >
> > > 2016-04-18 9:35 GMT+02:00 Flavio Pompermaier <pomperma...@okkam.it>:
> > >
> > >> Talking with Stefano this morning and looking at the DataSourceTask
> code
> > >> we
> > >> discovered that the open() and close() methods are both called for
> every
> > >> split and not once per inputFormat instance (maybe open and close
> should
> > >> be
> > >> renamed as openSplit and closeSplit to avoid confusion...).
> > >> I think that it could worth to add 2 methods to the InputFormat (e.g.
> > >> openInputFormat() and closeInputFormat() ) to allow for the managment
> of
> > >> the InputFormat lifecycle, otherwise I'll need to instantiate a pool
> > (and
> > >> thus adding a dependency) to avoid the creation of a new connection
> > >> (expensive operation) for every split (that in our use case happens
> > >> millions of times).
> > >>
> > >> What about the output of the inputFormat? how do you want me to
> proceed?
> > >> With POJO or Row? If POJO, which strategy do you suggest?
> > >>
> > >> Best,
> > >> Flavio
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 2:06 PM, Stefano Bortoli <s.bort...@gmail.com
> >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > If we share the connection, then we should also be careful with the
> > >> close()
> > >> > implementation. I did not see changes for this method in the PR.
> > >> >
> > >> > saluti,
> > >> > Stefano
> > >> >
> > >> > 2016-04-15 11:01 GMT+02:00 Flavio Pompermaier <pomperma...@okkam.it
> >:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Following your suggestions I've fixed the connection reuse in my
> PR
> > at
> > >> > > https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/1885.
> > >> > > I simply check in the establishConnection() if dbConn!=null and,
> in
> > >> that
> > >> > > case, I simply return immediately.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Thus, the only remaining thin to fix is the null handling. Do you
> > have
> > >> > any
> > >> > > suggestion about how to transform the results in a POJO?
> > >> > > Maybe returning a Row and then let the user manage the conversion
> to
> > >> the
> > >> > > target POJO in a successive map could be a more general soloution?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Best,
> > >> > > Flavio
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 6:52 PM, Fabian Hueske <fhue...@gmail.com
> >
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > There is an InputFormat object for each parallel task of a
> > >> DataSource.
> > >> > > > So for a source with parallelism 8 you will have 8 instances of
> > the
> > >> > > > InputFormat running, regardless whether this is on one box with
> 8
> > >> slots
> > >> > > or
> > >> > > > 8 machines with 1 slots each.
> > >> > > > The same is true for all other operators (Map, Reduce, Join,
> etc.)
> > >> and
> > >> > > > DataSinks.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Note, a single task does not fill a slot, but a "slice" of the
> > >> program
> > >> > > (one
> > >> > > > parallel task of each operator) fills a slot.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Cheers, Fabian
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > 2016-04-14 18:47 GMT+02:00 Flavio Pompermaier <
> > pomperma...@okkam.it
> > >> >:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > ok thanks!just one last question: an inputformat is
> instantiated
> > >> for
> > >> > > each
> > >> > > > > task slot or once for task manger?
> > >> > > > > On 14 Apr 2016 18:07, "Chesnay Schepler" <ches...@apache.org>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > no.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > if (connection==null) {
> > >> > > > > >  establishCOnnection();
> > >> > > > > > }
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > done. same connection for all splits.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > On 14.04.2016 17:59, Flavio Pompermaier wrote:
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >> I didn't understand what you mean for "it should also be
> > >> possible
> > >> > to
> > >> > > > > reuse
> > >> > > > > >> the same connection of an InputFormat across InputSplits,
> > i.e.,
> > >> > > calls
> > >> > > > of
> > >> > > > > >> the open() method".
> > >> > > > > >> At the moment in the open method there's a call to
> > >> > > > establishConnection,
> > >> > > > > >> thus, a new connection is created for each split.
> > >> > > > > >> If I understood correctly, you're suggesting to create a
> pool
> > >> in
> > >> > the
> > >> > > > > >> inputFormat and simply call poo.borrow() in the open()
> rather
> > >> than
> > >> > > > > >> establishConnection?
> > >> > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > >> On 14 Apr 2016 17:28, "Chesnay Schepler" <
> ches...@apache.org
> > >
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > >> On 14.04.2016 17:22, Fabian Hueske wrote:
> > >> > > > > >>>
> > >> > > > > >>> Hi Flavio,
> > >> > > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > > >>>> that are good questions.
> > >> > > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > > >>>> 1) Replacing null values by default values and simply
> > >> forwarding
> > >> > > > > records
> > >> > > > > >>>> is
> > >> > > > > >>>> very dangerous, in my opinion.
> > >> > > > > >>>> I see two alternatives: A) we use a data type that
> > tolerates
> > >> > null
> > >> > > > > >>>> values.
> > >> > > > > >>>> This could be a POJO that the user has to provide or Row.
> > The
> > >> > > > drawback
> > >> > > > > >>>> of
> > >> > > > > >>>> Row is that it is untyped and not easy to handle. B) We
> use
> > >> > Tuple
> > >> > > > and
> > >> > > > > >>>> add
> > >> > > > > >>>> an additional field that holds an Integer which serves
> as a
> > >> > bitset
> > >> > > > to
> > >> > > > > >>>> mark
> > >> > > > > >>>> null fields. This would be a pretty low level API
> though. I
> > >> am
> > >> > > > leaning
> > >> > > > > >>>> towards the user-provided POJO option.
> > >> > > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > > >>>> i would also lean towards the POJO option.
> > >> > > > > >>>
> > >> > > > > >>> 2) The JDBCInputFormat is located in a dedicated Maven
> > >> module. I
> > >> > > > think
> > >> > > > > we
> > >> > > > > >>>> can add a dependency to that module. However, it should
> > also
> > >> be
> > >> > > > > possible
> > >> > > > > >>>> to
> > >> > > > > >>>> reuse the same connection of an InputFormat across
> > >> InputSplits,
> > >> > > > i.e.,
> > >> > > > > >>>> calls
> > >> > > > > >>>> of the open() method. Wouldn't that be sufficient?
> > >> > > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > > >>>> this is the right approach imo.
> > >> > > > > >>>
> > >> > > > > >>> Best, Fabian
> > >> > > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > > >>>> 2016-04-14 16:59 GMT+02:00 Flavio Pompermaier <
> > >> > > pomperma...@okkam.it
> > >> > > > >:
> > >> > > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > > >>>> Hi guys,
> > >> > > > > >>>>
> > >> > > > > >>>>> I'm integrating the comments of Chesnay to my PR but
> > >> there's a
> > >> > > > couple
> > >> > > > > >>>>> of
> > >> > > > > >>>>> thing that I'd like to discuss with the core developers.
> > >> > > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > > >>>>>      1. about the JDBC type mapping (addValue() method
> at
> > >> [1]:
> > >> > At
> > >> > > > the
> > >> > > > > >>>>> moment
> > >> > > > > >>>>>      if I find a null value for a  Double, the getDouble
> > of
> > >> > jdbc
> > >> > > > > return
> > >> > > > > >>>>> 0.0.
> > >> > > > > >>>>> Is
> > >> > > > > >>>>>      it really the correct behaviour? Wouldn't be better
> > to
> > >> > use a
> > >> > > > > POJO
> > >> > > > > >>>>> or
> > >> > > > > >>>>> the
> > >> > > > > >>>>>      Row of datatable that can handle void? Moreover,
> the
> > >> > mapping
> > >> > > > > >>>>> between
> > >> > > > > >>>>> SQL
> > >> > > > > >>>>>      type and Java types varies much from the single
> JDBC
> > >> > > > > >>>>> implementation.
> > >> > > > > >>>>>      Wouldn't be better to rely on the Java type coming
> > from
> > >> > > using
> > >> > > > > >>>>>      resultSet.getObject() to get such a mapping rather
> > than
> > >> > > using
> > >> > > > > the
> > >> > > > > >>>>>      ResultSetMetadata types?
> > >> > > > > >>>>>      2. I'd like to handle connections very efficiently
> > >> because
> > >> > > we
> > >> > > > > >>>>> have a
> > >> > > > > >>>>> use
> > >> > > > > >>>>>      case with billions of records and thus millions of
> > >> splits
> > >> > > and
> > >> > > > > >>>>> establish
> > >> > > > > >>>>> a
> > >> > > > > >>>>>      new connection each time could be expensive. Would
> it
> > >> be a
> > >> > > > > >>>>> problem to
> > >> > > > > >>>>> add
> > >> > > > > >>>>>      apache pool dependency to the jdbc batch connector
> in
> > >> > order
> > >> > > to
> > >> > > > > >>>>> reuase
> > >> > > > > >>>>> the
> > >> > > > > >>>>>      created connections?
> > >> > > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > > >>>>>
> > >> > > > > >>>>> [1]
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> > >> > > > > >>>>>
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> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> https://github.com/fpompermaier/flink/blob/FLINK-3750/flink-batch-connectors/flink-jdbc/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/api/java/io/jdbc/JDBCInputFormat.java
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