Hi Till,

I saw jira issue. Do you want me to upload input dataset as well? If you
want i can prepare a github repo if it would be more easier.
On Jun 20, 2016 1:10 PM, "Till Rohrmann" <trohrm...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> your observation sounds like a bug to me and we have to further investigate
> it. I assume that you’re running a batch job, right? Could you maybe share
> your complete configuration and the job to reproduce the problem with us?
>
> I think that your investigation that direct buffers are not properly freed
> and garbage collected can be right. I will open a JIRA issue to further
> investigate and solve the problem. Thanks for reporting :-)
>
> At the moment, one way to solve this problem is, as you’ve already stated,
> to set taskmanager.memory.preallocate: true in your configuration. For
> batch jobs, this should actually improve the runtime performance at the
> cost of a slightly longer start-up time for your TaskManagers.
>
> Cheers,
> Till
> ​
>
> On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 6:16 PM, CPC <acha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I think i found some information regarding this behavior.  In jvm it is
> > almost imposible to free allocated memory via ByteBuffer.allocateDirect.
> > There is no explicit way to say jvm "free this direct bytebuffer". In
> some
> > forums they said you can free memory with below method:
> >
> >> def releaseBuffers(buffers:List[ByteBuffer]):List[ByteBuffer] = {
> >>
> >>     if(!buffers.isEmpty){
> >>
> >>         val cleanerMethod = buffers.head.getClass.getMethod("cleaner")
> >>
> >>         cleanerMethod.setAccessible(true)
> >>
> >>         buffers.foreach{buffer=>
> >>
> >>             val cleaner = cleanerMethod.invoke(buffer)
> >>
> >>             val cleanMethod = cleaner.getClass().getMethod("clean")
> >>
> >>             cleanMethod.setAccessible(true)
> >>
> >>             cleanMethod.invoke(cleaner)
> >>
> >>         }
> >>
> >>     }
> >>
> >>     List.empty[ByteBuffer]
> >>
> >> }
> >>
> >>
> > but since cleaner method is an internal method ,above  is not recommended
> > and not working in every jvm and java 9 does not support it also. I also
> > made some tests with above method and behavior is not predictable. If
> > memory allocated by some other thread and that thread exit then it
> release
> > memory. Actually GC controls directMemory buffers. If there is no gc
> > activity and memory is allocated and then dereferenced by different
> threads
> > memory usage goes beyond intended and machine goes to swap then os kills
> > taskmanager. In my tests i saw that behaviour:
> >
> > Suppose that thread A allocated 8gb memory exit and there is no reference
> > to allocated memory
> > than thread B allocated 8gb memory exit and there is no reference to
> > allocated memory
> >
> > when i look at direct memory usage from jvisualvm it looks like
> > below(-Xmx512m -XX:MaxDirectMemorySize=12G)
> >
> > [image: Inline images 1]
> >
> > but RSS of the process is 16 GB. If i call System.gc at that point RSS
> > drops to 8GB but not to expected point.
> >
> > This is why Apache cassandra guys select sun.misc.Unsafe(
> >
> http://cassandra-user-incubator-apache-org.3065146.n2.nabble.com/Off-heap-caching-through-ByteBuffer-allocateDirect-when-JNA-not-available-td6977711.html
> > ).
> >
> > I think currently only way to limit memory usage in flink if you want to
> > use same taskmanager across jobs is via "taskmanager.memory.preallocate:
> > true". Since it allocate memory at the beginning and not freed its memory
> > usage stays constant.
> >
> > PS: Sorry for my english i am not a native speaker. I hope i can explain
> > what i intended to :)
> >
> >
> >
> > On 18 June 2016 at 16:36, CPC <acha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I repeated the same test with conf values.
> >>
> >>> taskmanager.heap.mb: 6500
> >>>
> >>> taskmanager.memory.off-heap: true
> >>>
> >>> taskmanager.memory.fraction: 0.9
> >>>
> >>>
> >> i set TM_MAX_OFFHEAP_SIZE="6G" in taskmanager sh. Taskmanager started
> >> with
> >>
> >>> capacman 14543  323 56.0 17014744 13731328 pts/1 Sl 16:23  35:25
> >>> /home/capacman/programlama/java/jdk1.7.0_75/bin/java
> >>> -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC -XX:+CMSClassUnloadingEnabled -Xms650M -Xmx650M
> >>> -XX:MaxDirectMemorySize=6G -XX:MaxPermSize=256m
> >>>
> -Dlog.file=/home/capacman/Data/programlama/flink-1.0.3/log/flink-capacman-taskmanager-0-capacman-Aspire-V3-771.log
> >>>
> -Dlog4j.configuration=file:/home/capacman/Data/programlama/flink-1.0.3/conf/log4j.properties
> >>>
> -Dlogback.configurationFile=file:/home/capacman/Data/programlama/flink-1.0.3/conf/logback.xml
> >>> -classpath
> >>>
> /home/capacman/Data/programlama/flink-1.0.3/lib/flink-dist_2.11-1.0.3.jar:/home/capacman/Data/programlama/flink-1.0.3/lib/flink-python_2.11-1.0.3.jar:/home/capacman/Data/programlama/flink-1.0.3/lib/log4j-1.2.17.jar:/home/capacman/Data/programlama/flink-1.0.3/lib/slf4j-log4j12-1.7.7.jar:::
> >>> org.apache.flink.runtime.taskmanager.TaskManager --configDir
> >>> /home/capacman/Data/programlama/flink-1.0.3/conf
> >>>
> >>
> >> but memory usage reach up to 13Gb. Could somebodey explain me why memory
> >> usage is so high? I expect it to be at most 8GB with some jvm internal
> >> overhead.
> >>
> >> [image: Inline images 1]
> >>
> >> [image: Inline images 2]
> >>
> >> On 17 June 2016 at 20:26, CPC <acha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I am making some test about offheap memory usage and encounter an odd
> >>> behavior. My taskmanager heap limit is 12288 Mb and when i set
> >>> "taskmanager.memory.off-hep:true" for every job it allocates 11673 Mb
> off
> >>> heap area at most which is heapsize*0.95(value of
> >>> taskmanager.memory.fraction). But when i submit second job it allocated
> >>> another 11GB and does not free memory since MaxDirectMemorySize set to
> >>>  -XX:MaxDirectMemorySize=${TM_MAX_OFFHEAP_SIZE}"  which is
> >>> TM_MAX_OFFHEAP_SIZE="8388607T" and my laptop goes to swap then kernel
> oom
> >>> killed taskmanager. If i hit perform gc from visualvm between jobs
> then it
> >>> release direct memory but memory usage of taskmanager in ps command is
> >>> still around 20GB(RSS) and 27GB(virtual size)  in that case i could
> submit
> >>> my test job a few times without oom killed task manager but after 10
> submit
> >>>  it killed taskmanager again.  I dont understand why jvm memory usage
> is
> >>> still high even if all direct memory released. Do you have any idea?
> Then
> >>>  i set MaxDirectMemorySize to 12 GB  in this case it freed direct
> memory
> >>> without any explicit gc triggering from visualvm but jvm process memory
> >>> usage was still high around 20GB(RSS) and 27GB(virtual size). After
> again
> >>> maybe 10 submit it killed taskmanager. I think this is a bug and make
> it
> >>> imposible to reuse taskmanagers without restarting them in standalone
> mode.
> >>>
> >>> [image: Inline images 1]
> >>>
> >>> [image: Inline images 2]
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>

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