Thanks for the great design document Stefan. Unifying how Flink handles
state such that all checkpointable state is maintained by the StateBackend
makes a lot of sense to me. Also making the timer service scalable and
adding support for asynchronous checkpoints is really important for many
Flink users. Consequently +1 for this improvement.

Cheers,
Till

On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 9:45 AM, Stefan Richter <s.rich...@data-artisans.com
> wrote:

> Thanks for the positive feedback so far!
>
> @Sihua: I totally agree with your comments about improvements in
> performance for the existing RocksDB timer code. In fact, that is why I
> phrased it like „ implementation that is loosely based on some ideas“ to
> point out a solution can look roughly like the existing code but that it
> probably should *not* be a simple copy-paste. As for the comment of
> supporting heap timers with RocksDB state, I think there is nothing that
> speaks fundamentally against it and I think the design can be in a way to
> support that. It just makes the configuration more complex and we need to
> slightly „special case“ in incremental checkpoints. I was already wondering
> if heap timers with RocksDB state could not already become a byproduct of a
> stepwise implementation, i.e. when the first step of the plan is pushing
> timer state into the backends and there does not yet exist a RocksDB timer
> state.
>
> > Am 27.05.2018 um 10:03 schrieb sihua zhou <summerle...@163.com>:
> >
> >
> >
> > I also +1 for this very good proposal!
> > In general, the design is good, especially the part the related to the
> timer on Heap, but refer to the part of the timer on RocksDB, I think there
> may still exist some improvement that we can do, I just left the comments
> on the doc.
> >
> >
> > Best, Sihua
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 05/27/2018 15:31,Bowen Li<bowenl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > +1 LGTM. RocksDB timer service is one of the most highly anticipated
> > features from Flink users, and it's finally coming, officially. I also
> > would love to see bringing timer more closely to state backend, for the
> > sake of easier development and maintenance of code.
> >
> > On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 7:13 AM, Stefan Richter <
> s.rich...@data-artisans.com
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am currently planning how to improve Flink’s timer management for large
> > state. In particular, I would like to introduce timer state that is
> managed
> > in RocksDB and also to improve the capabilities of the heap-based timer
> > service, e.g. support for asynchronous checkpoints. You can find a short
> > outline of my planned approach in this document:
> >
> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XbhJRbig5c5Ftd77d0mKND1bePyTC
> > 26Pz04EvxdA7Jc/edit?usp=sharing
> >
> > As always, your questions, feedback, and comments are highly appreciated.
> >
> > Best,
> > Stefan
>
>

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