Thanks Kostas for confirming!

I've filed a issue FLINK-13027
<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-13027> .   We are actively
working on the interface of such a file rolling policy, and will also
perform benchmarks when it is integrated with a StreamingFileSink. We are
more than happy to contribute if there's no other plan to address this
issue.

Thanks again.

-
Bests
Ying


On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 2:24 AM Kostas Kloudas <kklou...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Ying,
>
> You are right! If it is either on checkpoint or on size, then this is
> doable even with the current state of things.
> Could you open a JIRA so that we can keep track of the progress?
>
> Cheers,
> Kostas
>
> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 9:49 AM Ying Xu <y...@lyft.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> > HI Kostas:
> >
> > Thanks for the prompt reply.
> >
> > The file rolling policy mentioned previously is meant to roll files
> EITHER
> > when a size limited is reached, OR when a checkpoint happens.  Looks like
> > every time a file is rolled, the part file is closed
> > <
> >
> https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/3702029f45b7034b767e2b7eb01601c7f76ab35e/flink-streaming-java/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/streaming/api/functions/sink/filesystem/Bucket.java#L217-L218
> > >,
> > during which file is closed with a committable returned
> > <
> >
> https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/3702029f45b7034b767e2b7eb01601c7f76ab35e/flink-streaming-java/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/streaming/api/functions/sink/filesystem/Bucket.java#L239-L240
> > >.
> > I assume it is during closeForCommit() when the Parquet file metatdata is
> > written.  At a first glance, the code path of file rolling looks very
> > similar to that inside prepareBucketForCheckpointing()
> > <
> >
> https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/3702029f45b7034b767e2b7eb01601c7f76ab35e/flink-streaming-java/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/streaming/api/functions/sink/filesystem/Bucket.java#L275
> > >.
> > Not sure if I miss anything there.
> >
> >
> > -
> > Ying
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 2:01 AM Kostas Kloudas <kklou...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Ying,
> > >
> > > Thanks for using the StreamingFileSink.
> > >
> > > The reason why the StreamingFileSink only supports
> > > OnCheckpointRollingPolicy with bulk
> > > formats has to do with the fact that currently Flink relies on the
> Hadoop
> > > writer for Parquet.
> > >
> > > Bulk formats keep important details about how they write the actual
> data
> > > (such as compression
> > > schemes, offsets, etc) in metadata and they write this metadata with
> the
> > > file (e.g. parquet writes
> > > them as a footer). The hadoop writer gives no access to these metadata.
> > > Given this, there is
> > > no way for flink to be able to checkpoint a part file securely without
> > > closing it.
> > >
> > > The solution would be to write our own writer and not go through the
> > hadoop
> > > one, but there
> > > are no concrete plans for this, as far as I know.
> > >
> > > I hope this explains a bit more why the StreamingFileSink has this
> > > limitation.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Kostas
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 9:19 AM Ying Xu <y...@lyft.com.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear Flink community:
> > > >
> > > > We have a use case where StreamingFileSink
> > > > <
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-stable/dev/connectors/streamfile_sink.html
> > > > >
> > > > is used for persisting bulk-encoded data to AWS s3. In our case, the
> > data
> > > > sources consist of hybrid types of events, for which each type is
> > > uploaded
> > > > to an individual s3 prefix location. Because the event size is highly
> > > > skewed, the uploaded file size may differ dramatically.  In order to
> > > have a
> > > > better control over the uploaded file size, we would like to adopt a
> > > > rolling policy based on file sizes (e.g., roll the file every 100MB).
> > Yet
> > > > it appears bulk-encoding StreamingFileSink only supports
> > checkpoint-based
> > > > file rolling.
> > > >
> > > > IMPORTANT: Bulk-encoding formats can only be combined with the
> > > > `OnCheckpointRollingPolicy`, which rolls the in-progress part file on
> > > every
> > > > checkpoint.
> > > >
> > > > Checkpoint-based file rolling appears to have other side effects. For
> > > > instance, quite a lot of the heavy liftings (e.g file parts
> uploading)
> > > are
> > > > performed at the checkpointing time. As a result, checkpointing takes
> > > > longer duration when data volume is high.
> > > >
> > > > Having a customized file rolling policy can be achieved by small
> > > > adjustments on the BulkFormatBuilder interface in StreamingFileSink.
> In
> > > the
> > > > case of using S3RecoverableWriter, file rolling triggers data
> uploading
> > > and
> > > > corresponding S3Committer is also constructed and stored. Hence on
> the
> > > > surface, adding a simple file-size based rolling policy would NOT
> > > > compromise the established exact-once guarantee.
> > > >
> > > > Any advises on whether the above idea makes sense? Or perhaps there
> are
> > > > pitfalls that one might pay attention when introducing such rolling
> > > policy.
> > > > Thanks a lot!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -
> > > > Ying
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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