Thanks for the updates, Jark.

+ 1 for not blocking 1.11.1 with FLINK-18581.

- The workaround requires upgrading to a later version of JDK8. I believe
such minor version migration should be acceptable in most cases.
- The original effort is contributed by Andrey & Till, both on vacation at
the moment.
- I've taken a brief look at the original efforts [1] [2]. It seems they
are already sort of quick fixes. I would be in favor of spending some time
looking for a proper solution, rather than patching a temporal solution
over another temporal solution.

Thank you~

Xintong Song


[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-15758
[2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-17822

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 8:01 PM Jark Wu <imj...@gmail.com> wrote:

> After discussing FLINK-18581 with @Xintong Song <tonysong...@gmail.com> 
> offline,
> it seems that it doesn't need to block 1.11.1.
> Because users can switch to use another version of JDK as a workaround.
> Besides, this might not be a trivial issue, we may need more time to come
> up with a clean solution and check compatibility problems for other JDK
> versions.
> Therefore, I suggest downgrading the priority of FLINK-18581, and not
> block 1.11.1 release.
>
> What do you think? @Dian Fu <dia...@apache.org> , @Chesnay Schepler
> <ches...@apache.org> , @Xintong Song <tonysong...@gmail.com>
>
> Best,
> Jark
>
> On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 at 18:16, Dian Fu <dian0511...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks! It makes sense to include FLINK-18573 and FLINK-18581 in 1.11.1.
>>
>> > 在 2020年7月13日,下午5:52,Chesnay Schepler <ches...@apache.org> 写道:
>> >
>> > It would be good to fix FLINK-18581 as well.
>> >
>> > On 13/07/2020 11:14, Jark Wu wrote:
>> >> Hi Chesnay,
>> >>
>> >> As discussed in the thread, 1.11.1 is a quick fix release, not a
>> normal fix
>> >> release process. This is in order to deliver a complete feature for
>> users
>> >> to try out 1.11 ASAP.
>> >> Actually, we already waited for the bugs for one week, and we have
>> received
>> >> some blocker issues reported by users (FLINK-18544, FLINK-18573).
>> >> Personally, I suggest not to wait more time to collect bugs, because we
>> >> can't wait until all the bugs are found and this will delay the feature
>> >> delivery again.
>> >> We can launch another patch release at any time after 1.11.1 if needed.
>> >>
>> >> Regarding FLINK-18573, I think it definitely is a blocker issue and
>> >> considering we haven't started the first RC. I think it makes sense to
>> wait
>> >> for this.
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >> Jark
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 at 16:42, Chesnay Schepler <ches...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Given that we are _just now_ starting to get bug reports, shouldn't we
>> >>> wait a bit longer with the next release?
>> >>>
>> >>> On 13/07/2020 10:30, Yun Tang wrote:
>> >>>> Hi
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If we decide to release Flink-1.11.1, I suggest to include fix for
>> >>> FLINK-18573 [1] as current influxdb metrics reporter is totally
>> broken from
>> >>> Flink-1.11 under current plugins mechanism.
>> >>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-18573
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Best
>> >>>> Yun Tang
>> >>>> ________________________________
>> >>>> From: Dian Fu <dian0511...@gmail.com>
>> >>>> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2020 15:06
>> >>>> To: Leonard Xu <xbjt...@gmail.com>
>> >>>> Cc: dev <dev@flink.apache.org>; Chesnay Schepler <ches...@apache.org
>> >;
>> >>> Timo Walther <j...@apache.org>; programg...@163.com <
>> programg...@163.com>
>> >>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Releasing Flink 1.11.1 soon?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks a lot for the confirmation, Leonard!
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> 在 2020年7月13日,上午11:37,Leonard Xu <xbjt...@gmail.com> 写道:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Thanks Dian for the work, I’m fine with do not include FLINK-17726
>> in
>> >>> this bug-fix version.
>> >>>>> Best,
>> >>>>> Leonard Xu
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> 在 2020年7月13日,11:31,Dian Fu <dian0511...@gmail.com> 写道:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Hi all,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I have gone over the issues mentioned in this thread and most
>> issues
>> >>> have already been resolved. Thanks you all for the quick fix!
>> >>>>>> Currently there are still the following mentioned issues are open:
>> >>>>>> - FLINK-17075:  Add task status reconciliation between TM and JM
>> >>> (@Chesnay)
>> >>>>>> - FLINK-18477: ChangelogSocketExample does not work  (@Timo)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Regarding to FLINK-17726, I confirmed with @Nicholas Jiang and it
>> will
>> >>> not be included in 1.11.1. @Leonard Xu, do you have any concerns?
>> >>>>>> Please free free to let me know if there are any other issues you'd
>> >>> like to be included in 1.11.1. I will prepare the first RC once all
>> the
>> >>> mentioned issues are resolved.
>> >>>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>>> Dian
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> 在 2020年7月10日,上午11:06,godfrey he <godfre...@gmail.com> 写道:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> +1 for a quick release to fix those blocker/critical bugs.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Best,
>> >>>>>>> Godfrey
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Congxian Qiu <qcx978132...@gmail.com> 于2020年7月10日周五 上午10:30写道:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> +1 for a quick bug fix release for 1.11
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Best,
>> >>>>>>>> Congxian
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Yu Li <car...@gmail.com> 于2020年7月10日周五 上午9:37写道:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> +1, thanks Jark for bringing this up and Dian for volunteering
>> as
>> >>> our
>> >>>>>>>>> release manager.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>> >>>>>>>>> Yu
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 at 09:29, Hequn Cheng <he...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> +1 for a quick bug fix release and Dian as the release manager.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Best,
>> >>>>>>>>>> Hequn
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 9:22 PM Dian Fu <dian0511...@gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jark,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for offering the help. It would definitely be helpful.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dian
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 在 2020年7月9日,下午8:54,Benchao Li <libenc...@apache.org> 写道:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> +1 for a quick bug fix release for 1.11
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Aljoscha Krettek <aljos...@apache.org> 于2020年7月9日周四
>> 下午8:11写道:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd also be in favour of releasing a 1.11.1 quickly
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Aljoscha
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 09.07.20 13:57, Jark Wu wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Dian,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Glad to hear that you want to be the release manager of
>> Flink
>> >>>>>>>>> 1.11.1.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am very willing to help you with the final steps of the
>> >>> release
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> process.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jark
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 at 17:57, Jingsong Li <
>> >>> jingsongl...@gmail.com
>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FLINK-18461 is really a blocker for the CDC feature.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So +1 for releasing Flink 1.11.1 soon.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jingsong
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 5:34 PM jincheng sun <
>> >>>>>>>>>> sunjincheng...@gmail.com
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for bring up this discussion Jark.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, looking forward the first bugfix version of Flink
>> 1.11.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jincheng
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dian Fu <dian0511...@gmail.com> 于2020年7月9日周四 下午5:28写道:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Jark for bringing up this discussion. I also
>> noticed
>> >>>>>>>> that
>> >>>>>>>>>>> there
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already users trying out the CDC feature and so it makes
>> >>> sense
>> >>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> have a
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quick 1.11.1 release.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would volunteer as the release manager of 1.11.1 if we
>> >>>>>>>> finally
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> decide
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a quick release. Also +1 to create the first RC on
>> next
>> >>>>>>>>>> Monday.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dian
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 在 2020年7月9日,下午3:55,Dawid Wysakowicz <
>> >>> dwysakow...@apache.org>
>> >>>>>>>>> 写道:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do agree it would be beneficial to have the 1.11.1
>> rather
>> >>>>>>>>> soon.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally additionally to Jark's list I'd like to see:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FLINK-18419  Can not create a catalog from user jar
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-18419)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incluedd. It has a PR already.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dawid
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 09/07/2020 09:51, Leonard Xu wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Jark
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks fro bringing this discussion.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We canceled the blocker priority of FLINK-18461 when
>> >>> release
>> >>>>>>>>>> Flink
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.11.0 from time consideration, IIRC, the majority of us
>> >>>>>>>> agreed
>> >>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> timely 1.11.1 in the vote mail of Flink 1.11.0.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And I have noticed some user voice[1][2] that they’re
>> >>> using
>> >>>>>>>>> CDC
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in mail list and offline communication with community
>> user,
>> >>> I
>> >>>>>>>>>> think
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following notable issues should be included in 1.11.1:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - FLINK-18461 Changelog source can't be insert into
>> upsert
>> >>>>>>>>> sink
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - FLINK-18426 Incompatible deprecated key type for
>> >>>>>>>>> registration
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cluster
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - FLINK-18434 Can not select fields with JdbcCatalog
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - FLINK-17726 Scheduler should take care of tasks
>> directly
>> >>>>>>>>>>> canceled
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TaskManager
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - FLINK-17075 Add task status reconciliation between
>> TM
>> >>> and
>> >>>>>>>> JM
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So,  +1 to prepare a quick bug-fix version from my
>> side.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leonard Xu
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] user:
>> >>>
>> http://apache-flink-user-mailing-list-archive.2336050.n4.nabble.com/Flip-105-can-the-debezium-canal-SQL-sink-to-database-directly-td36275.html#a36306
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>
>> http://apache-flink-user-mailing-list-archive.2336050.n4.nabble.com/Flip-105-can-the-debezium-canal-SQL-sink-to-database-directly-td36275.html#a36306
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2] user-zh:
>> >>>
>> http://apache-flink.147419.n8.nabble.com/flink-1-11-cdc-flink-sql-kafka-topic-tt4567.html#a4590
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>
>> http://apache-flink.147419.n8.nabble.com/flink-1-11-cdc-flink-sql-kafka-topic-tt4567.html#a4590
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 在 2020年7月9日,11:12,Jark Wu <imj...@gmail.com> 写道:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Besides, it would be great if we can figure out the
>> >>>>>>>>> performance
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regression
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thomas reported before.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you know what's the status now? @zhijiang <
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wangzhijiang...@aliyun.com>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Thomas
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jark
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 at 11:10, Jark Wu <
>> imj...@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As discussed in the voting thread of 1.11.0-RC4
>> [1], we
>> >>>>>>>>> found
>> >>>>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blocker
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue about the CDC feature [1].
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Considering this is a new kind of connector, we
>> don't
>> >>> want
>> >>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> block
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ready-to-publish RC4 and prefer to have an
>> immediately
>> >>>>>>>>> 1.11.1
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore, I would like to start the discussion
>> about
>> >>>>>>>>>> releasing
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.11.1
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> soon, to deliver a complete CDC feature.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can also release some notable bug fixes found in
>> >>> these
>> >>>>>>>>>> days.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggest not to wait too long to collect/fix bugs,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> otherwise it will delay the feature delivery again,
>> we
>> >>> can
>> >>>>>>>>>>> launch
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> patch release after that if needed.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most notable bug fixes so far are:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - FLINK-18461 Changelog source can't be insert into
>> >>> upsert
>> >>>>>>>>>> sink
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - FLINK-18426 Incompatible deprecated key type for
>> >>>>>>>>>> registration
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cluster
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> options
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Furthermore, I think it would be better if we can
>> fix
>> >>>>>>>> these
>> >>>>>>>>>>> issues
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.11.1:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - FLINK-18434 Can not select fields with
>> JdbcCatalog (PR
>> >>>>>>>>>> opened)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - FLINK-18520 New Table Function type inference
>> fails
>> >>> (PR
>> >>>>>>>>>>> opened)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - FLINK-18477 ChangelogSocketExample does not work
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to suggest creating the first RC next
>> Monday.
>> >>>>>>>> What
>> >>>>>>>>> do
>> >>>>>>>>>>> you
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there are any concerns or missing blocker issues
>> need
>> >>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>> be
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fixed
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.11.1, please let me know. Thanks.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jark
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>
>> http://apache-flink-mailing-list-archive.1008284.n3.nabble.com/VOTE-Release-1-11-0-release-candidate-4-tp42829p42858.html
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-18461
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, Jingsong Lee
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Benchao Li
>> >>>
>> >
>>
>>

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