Hi, all, FYI the FLIP doc has been created :
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-195%3A+Improve+the+name+and+structure+of+vertex+and+operator+name+for+sql+job

Best,
Wenlong

On Mon, 15 Nov 2021 at 11:41, wenlong.lwl <wenlong88....@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
> Thanks for the feedback, It seems that the proposal is accepted by all of
> you guys. I will prepare a formal FLIP document and then go ahead to the
> vote stage.
> If any one has any other comments or suggestions, please let me know,
> thanks.
>
> Best,
> Wenlong
>
> On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 at 05:54, Neng Lu <nl...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> +1 (non-binding)
>> This change will really help to ease developer life.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 6:33 AM Guowei Ma <guowei....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> +1
>>> This would be very helpful for our debugging online job.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Guowei
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 8:03 PM Yuepeng Pan <flin...@126.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > +1. It's useful to understand the job topology.
>>> > Looking forward to this feature.
>>> > Best,
>>> > Yuepeng Pan.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > At 2021-11-11 19:44:44, "Yangze Guo" <karma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >+1. That's gonna help a lot for debugging.
>>> > >
>>> > >Best,
>>> > >Yangze Guo
>>> > >
>>> > >On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 7:37 PM Till Rohrmann <trohrm...@apache.org>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >> This improvement looks like it makes the life of our users a lot
>>> easier
>>> > >> when it comes to understanding logs and reading the UI. Hence +1.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Cheers,
>>> > >> Till
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 11:59 AM JING ZHANG <beyond1...@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > Big +1.
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > This is a problem frequently encountered in our production
>>> platform,
>>> > look
>>> > >> > forward to this improvement.
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Best,
>>> > >> > Jing Zhang
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Martijn Visser <mart...@ververica.com> 于2021年11月11日周四 下午6:26写道:
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > > +1. Looks much better now
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 at 11:07, godfrey he <godfre...@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > > Thanks for driving this, this improvement solves a
>>> long-complained
>>> > >> > > > problem, +1
>>> > >> > > >
>>> > >> > > > Best,
>>> > >> > > > Godfrey
>>> > >> > > >
>>> > >> > > > Jark Wu <imj...@gmail.com> 于2021年11月11日周四 下午5:40写道:
>>> > >> > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > +1 for this. It looks much more clear and structured.
>>> > >> > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > Best,
>>> > >> > > > > Jark
>>> > >> > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 at 17:23, Chesnay Schepler <
>>> > ches...@apache.org>
>>> > >> > > > wrote:
>>> > >> > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > > I'm generally in favor of it, and there are already
>>> tickets
>>> > that
>>> > >> > > > > > proposed a dedicated operator/vertex description:
>>> > >> > > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-20388
>>> > >> > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-21858
>>> > >> > > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > > On 11/11/2021 10:02, wenlong.lwl wrote:
>>> > >> > > > > > > Hi, all, I would like to start a discussion about an
>>> > improvement
>>> > >> > on
>>> > >> > > > name
>>> > >> > > > > > > and structure of job vertex name, mainly to improve
>>> > experience of
>>> > >> > > > > > debugging
>>> > >> > > > > > > and analyzing sql job at runtime.
>>> > >> > > > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > > > the main proposed changes including:
>>> > >> > > > > > > 1. separate description and name for operator, so that
>>> we
>>> > can
>>> > >> > have
>>> > >> > > > > > detailed
>>> > >> > > > > > > info at description and shorter name, which could be
>>> more
>>> > >> > friendly
>>> > >> > > > for
>>> > >> > > > > > > external systems like logging/metrics without losing
>>> useful
>>> > >> > > > information.
>>> > >> > > > > > > 2. introduce a tree-mode vertex description which can
>>> make
>>> > the
>>> > >> > > > > > description
>>> > >> > > > > > > more readable and easier to understand
>>> > >> > > > > > > 3. clean up and improve description for sql operator
>>> > >> > > > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > > > here is an example with the changes for a sql job:
>>> > >> > > > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > > > vertex name:
>>> > >> > > > > > > GlobalGroupAggregate[52] -> (Calc[53] ->
>>> > NotNullEnforcer[54] ->
>>> > >> > > Sink:
>>> > >> > > > > > > tb_ads_dwi_pub_hbd_spm_dtr_002_003[54], Calc[55] ->
>>> > >> > > > NotNullEnforcer[56]
>>> > >> > > > > > ->
>>> > >> > > > > > > Sink: tb_ads_dwi_pub_hbd_spm_dtr_002_004[56])
>>> > >> > > > > > > vertex description:
>>> > >> > > > > > > [52]:GlobalGroupAggregate(groupBy=[stat_date,
>>> spm_url_ab,
>>> > >> > client],
>>> > >> > > > > > > select=[stat_date, spm_url_ab, client, COUNT(count1$0)
>>> AS
>>> > >> > > > > > > clk_cnt_app_mtr_001, COUNT(distinct$0 count$1) AS
>>> > >> > > clk_uv_app_mtr_001,
>>> > >> > > > > > > COUNT(count1$2) AS clk_cnt_app_mtr_002, COUNT(distinct$0
>>> > count$3)
>>> > >> > > AS
>>> > >> > > > > > > clk_uv_app_mtr_002, COUNT(count1$4) AS
>>> clk_cnt_app_mtr_003,
>>> > >> > > > > > > COUNT(distinct$0 count$5) AS clk_uv_app_mtr_003]) :-
>>> > >> > > > > > > [53]:Calc(select=[CASE((client <> ''),
>>> CONCAT_WS('\u0004',
>>> > >> > > > > > > CONCAT(SUBSTRING(MD5(CONCAT(spm_url_ab, '12345')), 1,
>>> 4),
>>> > >> > ':md5'),
>>> > >> > > > > > > CONCAT(spm_url_ab, ':spmab'), '12345:app',
>>> CONCAT(client,
>>> > >> > > ':client'),
>>> > >> > > > > > > CONCAT('ddd:', stat_date)), null:VARCHAR(2147483647)) AS
>>> > rowkey,
>>> > >> > > > > > > clk_cnt_app_mtr_001 AS clk_cnt_app_dtr_001,
>>> > clk_uv_app_mtr_001 AS
>>> > >> > > > > > > clk_uv_app_dtr_001, clk_cnt_app_mtr_002 AS
>>> > clk_cnt_app_dtr_002,
>>> > >> > > > > > > clk_uv_app_mtr_002 AS clk_uv_app_dtr_002,
>>> > clk_cnt_app_mtr_003 AS
>>> > >> > > > > > > clk_cnt_app_dtr_003, clk_uv_app_mtr_003 AS
>>> > clk_uv_app_dtr_003]) :
>>> > >> > > +-
>>> > >> > > > > > > [54]:NotNullEnforcer(fields=[rowkey]) : +-
>>> > >> > > > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > >
>>> > >> > > >
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> >
>>> >
>>> [54]:Sink(table=[default_catalog.default_database.tb_ads_dwi_pub_hbd_spm_dtr_002_003],
>>> > >> > > > > > > fields=[rowkey, clk_cnt_app_dtr_001, clk_uv_app_dtr_001,
>>> > >> > > > > > > clk_cnt_app_dtr_002, clk_uv_app_dtr_002,
>>> > clk_cnt_app_dtr_003,
>>> > >> > > > > > > clk_uv_app_dtr_003]) +- [55]:Calc(select=[CASE((client
>>> <>
>>> > ''),
>>> > >> > > > > > > CONCAT_WS('\u0004',
>>> CONCAT(SUBSTRING(MD5(CONCAT(spm_url_ab,
>>> > >> > > > '12345')), 1,
>>> > >> > > > > > > 4), ':md5'), CONCAT(spm_url_ab, ':spmab'), '12345:app',
>>> > >> > > > CONCAT('ddd:',
>>> > >> > > > > > > stat_date), CONCAT(client, ':client')), (client = ''),
>>> > >> > > > > > CONCAT_WS('\u0004',
>>> > >> > > > > > > CONCAT(SUBSTRING(MD5(CONCAT(spm_url_ab, '92459')), 1,
>>> 4),
>>> > >> > ':md5'),
>>> > >> > > > > > > CONCAT(spm_url_ab, ':spmab'), '92459:app',
>>> CONCAT('ddd:',
>>> > >> > > > stat_date)),
>>> > >> > > > > > > null:VARCHAR(2147483647)) AS rowkey,
>>> clk_cnt_app_mtr_001 AS
>>> > >> > > > > > > clk_cnt_app_dtr_001, clk_uv_app_mtr_001 AS
>>> > clk_uv_app_dtr_001,
>>> > >> > > > > > > clk_cnt_app_mtr_002 AS clk_cnt_app_dtr_002,
>>> > clk_uv_app_mtr_002 AS
>>> > >> > > > > > > clk_uv_app_dtr_002, clk_cnt_app_mtr_003 AS
>>> > clk_cnt_app_dtr_003,
>>> > >> > > > > > > clk_uv_app_mtr_003 AS clk_uv_app_dtr_003]) +-
>>> > >> > > > > > > [56]:NotNullEnforcer(fields=[rowkey]) +-
>>> > >> > > > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > >
>>> > >> > > >
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> >
>>> >
>>> [56]:Sink(table=[default_catalog.default_database.tb_ads_dwi_pub_hbd_spm_dtr_002_004],
>>> > >> > > > > > > fields=[rowkey, clk_cnt_app_dtr_001, clk_uv_app_dtr_001,
>>> > >> > > > > > > clk_cnt_app_dtr_002, clk_uv_app_dtr_002,
>>> > clk_cnt_app_dtr_003,
>>> > >> > > > > > > clk_uv_app_dtr_003])
>>> > >> > > > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > > > For more detail on the proposal:
>>> > >> > > > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > >
>>> > >> > > >
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> >
>>> >
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VUVJeHY_We09GY53-K2lETP3HUNZG9wMKyecFWk_Wxk
>>> > >> > > > > > > <
>>> > >> > > > > >
>>> > >> > > >
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> >
>>> >
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VUVJeHY_We09GY53-K2lETP3HUNZG9wMKyecFWk_Wxk/edit#
>>> > >> > > > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > > > Looking forward to your feedback, thanks.
>>> > >> > > > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > > > Bests
>>> > >> > > > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > > > Wenlong Lyu
>>> > >> > > > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > >
>>> > >> > > >
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> >
>>> >
>>>
>>

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