Hi Godfrey,

Thanks for creating the FLIP. I have no comments.

Best regards,

Martijn


On Tue, 17 May 2022 at 04:52, Jingsong Li <jingsongl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Godfrey,
>
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> Sounds good to me.
>
> > I think we should also introduce a config option
>
> We can add this option to the FLIP. I prefer a option for
> FileSystemConnector, maybe a enum.
>
> Best,
> Jingsong
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 10:31 AM godfrey he <godfre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Jingsong,
> >
> > Thanks for the feedback.
> >
> >
> > >One concern I have is that we read the footer for each file, and this
> may
> > >be a bit costly in some cases. Is it possible for us to have some
> > > hierarchical way
> > yes, if there are thousands of orc/parquet files, it may take a long
> time.
> > So we can introduce a config option to let the user choose the
> > granularity of the statistics.
> > But the SIZE will not be introduced, because the planner does not use
> > the file size statistics now.
> > We can introduce once file size statistics is introduce in the future.
> > I think we should also introduce a config option to enable/disable
> > SupportStatisticReport,
> > because it's a heavy operation for some connectors in some cases.
> >
> > > is the filter pushdown already happening at
> > > this time?
> > That's a good point. Currently, the filter push down is after partition
> > pruning
> > to prevent the filter push down rule from consuming the partition
> > predicates.
> > The statistics will be set to unknown if filter is pushed down now.
> > To combine them all, we can create an optimization program after filter
> > push
> > down program to collect the statistics. This could avoid collecting
> > statistics multiple times.
> >
> >
> > Best,
> > Godfrey
> >
> > Jingsong Li <jingsongl...@gmail.com> 于2022年5月13日周五 22:44写道:
> > >
> > > Thank Godfrey for driving.
> > >
> > > Looks very good~ This will undoubtedly greatly enhance the various
> batch
> > > mode connectors.
> > >
> > > I left some comments:
> > >
> > > ## FileBasedStatisticsReportableDecodingFormat
> > >
> > > One concern I have is that we read the footer for each file, and this
> may
> > > be a bit costly in some cases. Is it possible for us to have some
> > > hierarchical way, e.g.
> > > - No statistics are collected for files by default.
> > > - SIZE: Generate statistics based on file Size, get the size of the
> file
> > > only with access to the master of the FileSystem.
> > > - DETAILED: Get the complete statistics by format, possibly by
> accessing
> > > the footer of the file.
> > >
> > > ## When use the statistics reported by connector
> > >
> > > > When partitions are pruned by PushPartitionIntoTableSourceScanRule,
> the
> > > statistics should also be updated.
> > >
> > > I understand that we definitely need to use reporter after the
> partition
> > > prune, but another question: is the filter pushdown already happening
> at
> > > this time?
> > > Can we make sure that in the following three cases, both the filter
> > > pushdown and the partition prune happen before the stats reporting.
> > > - only partition prune happens
> > > - only filter pushdown happens
> > > - both filter pushdown and partition prune happen
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Jingsong
> > >
> > > On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 6:57 PM godfrey he <godfre...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I would like to open a discussion on FLIP-231:  Introduce
> > > > SupportStatisticReport
> > > > to support reporting statistics from source connectors.
> > > >
> > > > Statistics are one of the most important inputs to the optimizer.
> > > > Accurate and complete statistics allows the optimizer to be more
> > powerful.
> > > > Currently, the statistics of Flink SQL come from Catalog only,
> > > > while many Connectors have the ability to provide statistics, e.g.
> > > > FileSystem.
> > > > In production, we find many tables in Catalog do not have any
> > statistics.
> > > > As a result, the optimizer can't generate better execution plans,
> > > > especially for Batch jobs.
> > > >
> > > > There are two approaches to enhance statistics for the planner,
> > > > one is to introduce the "ANALYZE TABLE" syntax which will write
> > > > the analyzed result to the catalog, another is to introduce a new
> > > > connector interface
> > > > which allows the connector itself to report statistics directly to
> the
> > > > planner.
> > > > The second one is a supplement to the catalog statistics.
> > > >
> > > > Here, we will discuss the second approach. Compared to the first one,
> > > > the second one is to get statistics in real time, no need to run an
> > > > analysis job for each table. This could help improve the user
> > > > experience.
> > > > (We will also introduce the "ANALYZE TABLE" syntax in other FLIP.)
> > > >
> > > > You can find more details in FLIP-231 document[1]. Looking forward to
> > > > your feedback.
> > > >
> > > > [1]
> > > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/resumedraft.action?draftId=211883860&draftShareId=eda17eaa-43f9-4dc1-9a7d-3a9b5a4bae00&;
> > > > [2] POC: https://github.com/godfreyhe/flink/tree/FLIP-231
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Godfrey
> > > >
> >
>

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