Hi Galen, Yes, I'll be more than happy to help with Statefun releases.
Best regards, Martijn On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 2:21 PM Galen Warren <ga...@cvillewarrens.com> wrote: > Thanks. > > Martijn, to answer your question, I'd need to do a small amount of work to > get a PR ready, but not much. Happy to do it if we're deciding to restart > Statefun releases -- are we? > > -- Galen > > On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 9:47 AM Tzu-Li (Gordon) Tai <tzuli...@apache.org> > wrote: > >> > Perhaps he could weigh in on whether the combination of automated tests >> plus those smoke tests should be sufficient for testing with new Flink >> versions >> >> What we usually did at the bare minimum for new StateFun releases was the >> following: >> >> 1. Build tests (including the smoke tests in the e2e module, which >> covers important tests like exactly-once verification) >> 2. Updating the flink-statefun-playground repo and manually running >> all language examples there. >> >> If upgrading Flink versions was the only change in the release, I'd >> probably say that this is sufficient. >> >> Best, >> Gordon >> >> On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 5:25 AM Martijn Visser <martijnvis...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> >>> Let me know if you have a PR for a Flink update :) >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 5:52 PM Galen Warren via user < >>> u...@flink.apache.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks Martijn. >>>> >>>> Personally, I'm already using a local fork of Statefun that is >>>> compatible with Flink 1.16.x, so I wouldn't have any need for a released >>>> version compatible with 1.15.x. I'd be happy to do the PRs to modify >>>> Statefun to work with new versions of Flink as they come along. >>>> >>>> As for testing, Statefun does have unit tests and Gordon also sent me >>>> instructions a while back for how to do some additional smoke tests which >>>> are pretty straightforward. Perhaps he could weigh in on whether the >>>> combination of automated tests plus those smoke tests should be sufficient >>>> for testing with new Flink versions (I believe the answer is yes). >>>> >>>> -- Galen >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 8:01 AM Martijn Visser <martijnvis...@apache.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> Apologies for the late reply. >>>>> >>>>> I'm willing to help out with merging requests in Statefun to keep them >>>>> compatible with new Flink releases and create new releases. I do think >>>>> that >>>>> validation of the functionality of these releases depends a lot on >>>>> those >>>>> who do these compatibility updates, with PMC members helping out with >>>>> the >>>>> formal process. >>>>> >>>>> > Why can't the Apache Software Foundation allow community members to >>>>> bring >>>>> it up to date? >>>>> >>>>> There's nothing preventing anyone from reviewing any of the current >>>>> PRs or >>>>> opening new ones. However, none of them are approved [1], so there's >>>>> also >>>>> nothing to merge. >>>>> >>>>> > I believe that there are people and companies on this mailing list >>>>> interested in supporting Apache Flink Stateful Functions. >>>>> >>>>> If so, then now is the time to show. >>>>> >>>>> Would there be a preference to create a release with Galen's merged >>>>> compatibility update to Flink 1.15.2, or do we want to skip that and go >>>>> straight to a newer version? >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> Martijn >>>>> >>>>> [1] >>>>> >>>>> https://github.com/apache/flink-statefun/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+review%3Aapproved >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 3:55 PM Marco Villalobos < >>>>> mvillalo...@kineteque.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > Why can't the Apache Software Foundation allow community members to >>>>> bring >>>>> > it up to date? >>>>> > >>>>> > What's the process for that? >>>>> > >>>>> > I believe that there are people and companies on this mailing list >>>>> > interested in supporting Apache Flink Stateful Functions. >>>>> > >>>>> > You already had two people on this thread express interest. >>>>> > >>>>> > At the very least, we could keep the library versions up to date. >>>>> > >>>>> > There are only a small list of new features that might be worthwhile: >>>>> > >>>>> > 1. event time processing >>>>> > 2. state rest api >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On Jun 6, 2023, at 3:06 AM, Chesnay Schepler <ches...@apache.org> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > If you were to fork it *and want to redistribute it* then the short >>>>> > version is that >>>>> > >>>>> > 1. you have to adhere to the Apache licensing requirements >>>>> > 2. you have to make it clear that your fork does not belong to the >>>>> > Apache Flink project. (Trademarks and all that) >>>>> > >>>>> > Neither should be significant hurdles (there should also be plenty of >>>>> > online resources regarding 1), and if you do this then you can >>>>> freely share >>>>> > your fork with others. >>>>> > >>>>> > I've also pinged Martijn to take a look at this thread. >>>>> > To my knowledge the project hasn't decided anything yet. >>>>> > >>>>> > On 27/05/2023 04:05, Galen Warren wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > Ok, I get it. No interest. >>>>> > >>>>> > If this project is being abandoned, I guess I'll work with my own >>>>> fork. Is >>>>> > there anything I should consider here? Can I share it with other >>>>> people who >>>>> > use this project? >>>>> > >>>>> > On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 10:50 AM Galen Warren < >>>>> ga...@cvillewarrens.com> <ga...@cvillewarrens.com> >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > Hi Martijn, since you opened this discussion thread, I'm curious >>>>> what your >>>>> > thoughts are in light of the responses? Thanks. >>>>> > >>>>> > On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 1:21 PM Galen Warren < >>>>> ga...@cvillewarrens.com> <ga...@cvillewarrens.com> >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > I use Apache Flink for stream processing, and StateFun as a hand-off >>>>> > >>>>> > point for the rest of the application. >>>>> > It serves well as a bridge between a Flink Streaming job and >>>>> > micro-services. >>>>> > >>>>> > This is essentially how I use it as well, and I would also be sad to >>>>> see >>>>> > it sunsetted. It works well; I don't know that there is a lot of new >>>>> > development required, but if there are no new Statefun releases, then >>>>> > Statefun can only be used with older Flink versions. >>>>> > >>>>> > On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 10:04 PM Marco Villalobos < >>>>> mvillalo...@kineteque.com> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > I am currently using Stateful Functions in my application. >>>>> > >>>>> > I use Apache Flink for stream processing, and StateFun as a hand-off >>>>> > point for the rest of the application. >>>>> > It serves well as a bridge between a Flink Streaming job and >>>>> > micro-services. >>>>> > >>>>> > I would be disappointed if StateFun was sunsetted. Its a good idea. >>>>> > >>>>> > If there is anything I can do to help, as a contributor perhaps, >>>>> please >>>>> > let me know. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On Apr 3, 2023, at 2:02 AM, Martijn Visser <martijnvis...@apache.org> >>>>> <martijnvis...@apache.org> >>>>> > >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > Hi everyone, >>>>> > >>>>> > I want to open a discussion on the status of the Statefun Project [1] >>>>> > >>>>> > in Apache Flink. As you might have noticed, there hasn't been much >>>>> > development over the past months in the Statefun repository [2]. >>>>> There is >>>>> > currently a lack of active contributors and committers who are able >>>>> to help >>>>> > with the maintenance of the project. >>>>> > >>>>> > In order to improve the situation, we need to solve the lack of >>>>> > >>>>> > committers and the lack of contributors. >>>>> > >>>>> > On the lack of committers: >>>>> > >>>>> > 1. Ideally, there are some of the current Flink committers who have >>>>> > >>>>> > the bandwidth and can help with reviewing PRs and merging them. >>>>> > >>>>> > 2. If that's not an option, it could be a consideration that current >>>>> > >>>>> > committers only approve and review PRs, that are approved by those >>>>> who are >>>>> > willing to contribute to Statefun and if the CI passes >>>>> > >>>>> > On the lack of contributors: >>>>> > >>>>> > 3. Next to having this discussion on the Dev and User mailing list, >>>>> we >>>>> > >>>>> > can also create a blog with a call for new contributors on the Flink >>>>> > project website, send out some tweets on the Flink / Statefun twitter >>>>> > accounts, post messages on Slack etc. In that message, we would >>>>> inform how >>>>> > those that are interested in contributing can start and where they >>>>> could >>>>> > reach out for more information. >>>>> > >>>>> > There's also option 4. where a group of interested people would split >>>>> > >>>>> > Statefun from the Flink project and make it a separate top level >>>>> project >>>>> > under the Apache Flink umbrella (similar as recently has happened >>>>> with >>>>> > Flink Table Store, which has become Apache Paimon). >>>>> > >>>>> > If we see no improvements in the coming period, we should consider >>>>> > >>>>> > sunsetting Statefun and communicate that clearly to the users. >>>>> > >>>>> > I'm looking forward to your thoughts. >>>>> > >>>>> > Best regards, >>>>> > >>>>> > Martijn >>>>> > >>>>> > [1] https://nightlies.apache.org/flink/flink-statefun-docs-master/ < >>>>> > >>>>> > https://nightlies.apache.org/flink/flink-statefun-docs-master/> >>>>> > >>>>> > [2] https://github.com/apache/flink-statefun < >>>>> > >>>>> > https://github.com/apache/flink-statefun> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>
