Thanks @zhengyunhon...@gmail.com
Regards
Venkata krishnan

On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 6:16 PM yh z <zhengyunhon...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi, Venkatakrishnan,
> I think this is a very useful feature. I have been focusing on the
> development of the flink-table-planner module recently, so if you need some
> help, I can assist you in completing the development of some sub-tasks or
> code review.
>
> Returning to the design itself, I think it's necessary to modify
> FieldReferenceExpression or re-implement a NestedFieldReferenceExpression.
> As for modifying the interface of SupportsProjectionPushDown, I think we
> need to make some trade-offs. As a connector developer, the stability of
> the interface is very important. If there are no unresolved bugs, I
> personally do not recommend modifying the interface. However, when I first
> read the code of SupportsProjectionPushDown, the design of int[][] was very
> confusing for me, and it took me a long time to understand it by running
> specify UT tests. Therefore, in terms of the design of this interface and
> the consistency between different interfaces, there is indeed room for
> improvement it.
>
> Thanks,
> Yunhong Zheng (Swuferhong)
>
>
>
>
> Becket Qin <becket....@gmail.com> 于2023年8月3日周四 07:44写道:
>
> > Hi Jark,
> >
> > If the FieldReferenceExpression contains an int[] to support a nested
> field
> > reference, List<FieldReferenceExpression> (or FieldReferenceExpression[])
> > and int[][] are actually equivalent. If we are designing this from
> scratch,
> > personally I prefer using List<FieldReferenceExpression> for consistency,
> > i.e. always resolving everything to expressions for users. Projection is
> a
> > simpler case, but should not be a special case. This avoids doing the
> same
> > thing in different ways which is also a confusion to the users. To me,
> the
> > int[][] format would become kind of a technical debt after we extend the
> > FieldReferenceExpression. Although we don't have to address it right away
> > in the same FLIP, this kind of debt accumulates over time and makes the
> > project harder to learn and maintain. So, personally I prefer to address
> > these technical debts as soon as possible.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 8:19 PM Jark Wu <imj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I agree with Becket that we may need to extend FieldReferenceExpression
> > to
> > > support nested field access (or maybe a new
> > > NestedFieldReferenceExpression).
> > > But I have some concerns about evolving the
> > > SupportsProjectionPushDown.applyProjection.
> > > A projection is much simpler than Filter Expression which only needs to
> > > represent the field indexes.
> > > If we evolve `applyProjection` to accept
> `List<FieldReferenceExpression>
> > > projectedFields`,
> > > users have to convert the `List<FieldReferenceExpression>` back to
> > int[][]
> > > which is an overhead for users.
> > > Field indexes (int[][]) is required to project schemas with the
> > > utility org.apache.flink.table.connector.Projection.
> > >
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Jark
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 at 07:40, Venkatakrishnan Sowrirajan <
> > vsowr...@asu.edu>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks Becket for the suggestion. That makes sense. Let me try it out
> > and
> > > > get back to you.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Venkata krishnan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 9:04 AM Becket Qin <becket....@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > This is a very useful feature in practice.
> > > > >
> > > > > It looks to me that the key issue here is that Flink
> > ResolvedExpression
> > > > > does not have necessary abstraction for nested field access. So the
> > > > Calcite
> > > > > RexFieldAccess does not have a counterpart in the
> ResolvedExpression.
> > > The
> > > > > FieldReferenceExpression only supports direct access to the fields,
> > not
> > > > > nested access.
> > > > >
> > > > > Theoretically speaking, this nested field reference is also
> required
> > by
> > > > > projection pushdown. However, we addressed that by using an int[][]
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > SupportsProjectionPushDown interface. Maybe we can do the
> following:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Extend the FieldReferenceExpression to include an int[] for
> nested
> > > > field
> > > > > access,
> > > > > 2. By doing (1),
> > > > > SupportsFilterPushDown#applyFilters(List<ResolvedExpression>) can
> > > support
> > > > > nested field access.
> > > > > 3. Evolve the SupportsProjectionPushDown.applyProjection(int[][]
> > > > > projectedFields, DataType producedDataType) to
> > > > > applyProjection(List<FieldReferenceExpression> projectedFields,
> > > DataType
> > > > > producedDataType)
> > > > >
> > > > > This will need a FLIP.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 11:42 PM Venkatakrishnan Sowrirajan <
> > > > > vsowr...@asu.edu>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for the response. Looking forward to your pointers. In the
> > > > > > meanwhile, let me figure out how we can implement it. Will keep
> you
> > > > > posted.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Jul 31, 2023, 11:43 PM liu ron <ron9....@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi, Venkata
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for reporting this issue. Currently, Flink doesn't
> support
> > > > > nested
> > > > > > > filter pushdown. I also think that this optimization would be
> > > useful,
> > > > > > > especially for jobs, which may need to read a lot of data from
> > the
> > > > > > parquet
> > > > > > > or orc file. We didn't move forward with this for some priority
> > > > > reasons.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regarding your three questions, I will respond to you later
> after
> > > my
> > > > > > > on-call is finished because I need to dive into the source
> code.
> > > > About
> > > > > > your
> > > > > > > commit, I don't think it's the right solution because
> > > > > > > FieldReferenceExpression doesn't currently support nested field
> > > > filter
> > > > > > > pushdown, maybe we need to extend it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You can also look further into reasonable solutions, which
> we'll
> > > > > discuss
> > > > > > > further later on.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > Ron
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Venkatakrishnan Sowrirajan <vsowr...@asu.edu> 于2023年7月29日周六
> > > 03:31写道:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Currently, I am working on adding support for nested fields
> > > filter
> > > > > push
> > > > > > > > down. In our use case running Flink on Batch, we found nested
> > > > fields
> > > > > > > filter
> > > > > > > > push down is key - without it, it is significantly slow.
> Note:
> > > > Spark
> > > > > > SQL
> > > > > > > > supports nested fields filter push down.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > While debugging the code using IcebergTableSource as the
> table
> > > > > source,
> > > > > > > > narrowed down the issue to missing support for
> > > > > > > >
> RexNodeExtractor#RexNodeToExpressionConverter#visitFieldAccess.
> > > > > > > > As part of fixing it, I made changes by returning an
> > > > > > > > Option(FieldReferenceExpression)
> > > > > > > > with appropriate reference to the parent index and the child
> > > index
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > nested field with the data type info.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But this new ResolvedExpression cannot be converted to
> RexNode
> > > > which
> > > > > > > > happens in PushFilterIntoSourceScanRuleBase
> > > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/3f63e03e83144e9857834f8db1895637d2aa218a/flink-table/flink-table-planner/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/table/planner/plan/rules/logical/PushFilterIntoSourceScanRuleBase.java*L104__;Iw!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!fNgxcul8ZGwkNE9ygOeVGlWlU6m_MLMXf4A3S3oQu9LBzYTPF90pZ7uXSGMr-5dFmzRn37-e9Q5cMnVs$
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > .
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Few questions
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 1. Does FieldReferenceExpression support nested fields
> > currently
> > > or
> > > > > > > should
> > > > > > > > it be extended to support nested fields? I couldn't figure
> this
> > > out
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > the PushProjectIntoTableScanRule that supports nested column
> > > > > projection
> > > > > > > > push down.
> > > > > > > > 2. ExpressionConverter
> > > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/3f63e03e83144e9857834f8db1895637d2aa218a/flink-table/flink-table-planner/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/table/planner/expressions/converter/ExpressionConverter.java*L197__;Iw!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!fNgxcul8ZGwkNE9ygOeVGlWlU6m_MLMXf4A3S3oQu9LBzYTPF90pZ7uXSGMr-5dFmzRn37-e9Z6jnkJm$
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > converts ResolvedExpression -> RexNode but the new
> > > > > > > FieldReferenceExpression
> > > > > > > > with the nested field cannot be converted to RexNode. This is
> > why
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > answer to the 1st question is key.
> > > > > > > > 3. Anything else that I'm missing here? or is there an even
> > > easier
> > > > > way
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > add support for nested fields filter push down?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Partially working changes - Commit
> > > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/venkata91/flink/commit/00cdf34ecf9be3ba669a97baaed4b69b85cd26f9__;!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!fNgxcul8ZGwkNE9ygOeVGlWlU6m_MLMXf4A3S3oQu9LBzYTPF90pZ7uXSGMr-5dFmzRn37-e9XeOjJ_a$
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Please
> > > > > > > > feel free to leave a comment directly in the commit.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Any pointers here would be much appreciated! Thanks in
> advance.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Disclaimer: Relatively new to Flink code base especially
> Table
> > > > > planner
> > > > > > > :-).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > > Venkata krishnan
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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