Hi, Jim.
Thanks for your explaination.
>Ah, I mean to ask if you can contribute the new SESSION Table support
>without needing FLIP-392 completely settled.  I was trying to see if that
>is separate work which can be done or if there is some dependency on this
>FLIP.
The pr available about session window tvf belongs to this flip I think, and is 
part of the work about this flip. Actually the poc pr is not ready completely 
yet, 
I'll try to update it to implement the session window tvf in window agg 
operator instead of using legacy group window agg operator.
>The tests should not be impacted.  Depending on what order our work lands
>in, one of the tests you've added/updated would likely move to the
>RestoreTests that Bonnie and I are working on.  Just mentioning that ahead
>of time

Got it! I will pay attention to it.




--

    Best!
    Xuyang





在 2023-12-11 21:35:00,"Jim Hughes" <jhug...@confluent.io.INVALID> 写道:
>Hi Xuyang,
>
>On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 10:41 PM Xuyang <xyzhong...@163.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi, Jim.
>> >As a clarification, since FLINK-24204 is finishing up work from
>> >FLIP-145[1], do we need to discuss anything before you work out the
>> details
>> >of FLINK-24024 as a PR?
>> Which issue do you mean? It seems that FLINK-24204[1] is the issue with
>> table api&sql type system.
>>
>
>Ah, I mean to ask if you can contribute the new SESSION Table support
>without needing FLIP-392 completely settled.  I was trying to see if that
>is separate work which can be done or if there is some dependency on this
>FLIP.
>
>
>> I've got a PR up [3] for moving at least one of the classes you are
>> touching.
>> Nice work! Since we are not going to delete the legacy group window agg
>> operator actually, the only compatibility issue
>> may be that when using flink sql, the legacy group window agg operator
>> will be rewritten into new operators. Will these tests be affected about
>> this rewritten?
>>
>
>The tests should not be impacted.  Depending on what order our work lands
>in, one of the tests you've added/updated would likely move to the
>RestoreTests that Bonnie and I are working on.  Just mentioning that ahead
>of time
>
>Cheers,
>
>Jim
>
>
>
>>
>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-24204
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>     Best!
>>     Xuyang
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 2023-12-09 06:25:30, "Jim Hughes" <jhug...@confluent.io.INVALID> wrote:
>> >Hi Xuyang,
>> >
>> >As a clarification, since FLINK-24204 is finishing up work from
>> >FLIP-145[1], do we need to discuss anything before you work out the
>> details
>> >of FLINK-24024 as a PR?
>> >
>> >Relatedly, as that goes up for a PR, as part of FLINK-33421 [2], Bonnie
>> and
>> >I are working through migrating some of the JsonPlan Tests and ITCases to
>> >RestoreTests.  I've got a PR up [3] for moving at least one of the classes
>> >you are touching.  Let me know if I can share any details about that work.
>> >
>> >Cheers,
>> >
>> >Jim
>> >
>> >1.
>> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-145%3A+Support+SQL+windowing+table-valued+function#FLIP145:SupportSQLwindowingtablevaluedfunction-SessionWindows
>> >
>> >2. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-33421
>> >3. https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/23886
>> >https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-33676
>> >
>> >On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 7:31 AM Xuyang <xyzhong...@163.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi all.
>> >> I'd like to start a discussion of FLIP-392: Deprecate the Legacy Group
>> >> Window Aggregation.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Although the current Flink SQL Window Aggregation documentation[1]
>> >> indicates that the legacy Group Window Aggregation
>> >> syntax has been deprecated, the new Window TVF Aggregation syntax has
>> not
>> >> fully covered all of the features of the legacy one.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Compared to Group Window Aggergation, Window TVF Aggergation has several
>> >> advantages, such as two-stage optimization,
>> >> support for standard GROUPING SET syntax, and so on. However, it needs
>> to
>> >> supplement and enrich the following features.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 1. Support for SESSION Window TVF Aggregation
>> >> 2. Support for consuming CDC stream
>> >> 3. Support for HOP window size with non-integer step length
>> >> 4. Support for configurations such as early fire, late fire and allow
>> >> lateness
>> >> (which are internal experimental configurations in Group Window
>> >> Aggregation and not public to users yet.)
>> >> 5. Unification of the Window TVF Aggregation operator in runtime at the
>> >> implementation layer
>> >> (In the long term, the cost to maintain the operators about Window TVF
>> >> Aggregation and Group Window Aggregation is too expensive.)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> This flip aims to continue the unfinished work in FLIP-145[2], which is
>> to
>> >> fully enable the capabilities of Window TVF Aggregation
>> >>  and officially deprecate the legacy syntax Group Window Aggregation, to
>> >> prepare for the removal of the legacy one in Flink 2.0.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I have already done some preliminary POC to validate the feasibility of
>> >> the related work in this flip as follows.
>> >> 1. POC for SESSION Window TVF Aggregation [3]
>> >> 2. POC for CUMULATE in Group Window Aggregation operator [4]
>> >> 3. POC for consuming CDC stream in Window Aggregation operator [5]
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Looking forward to your feedback and thoughts!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> [1]
>> >>
>> https://nightlies.apache.org/flink/flink-docs-master/docs/dev/table/sql/queries/window-agg/
>> >>
>> >> [2]
>> >>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-145%3A+Support+SQL+windowing+table-valued+function#FLIP145:SupportSQLwindowingtablevaluedfunction-SessionWindows
>> >> [3] https://github.com/xuyangzhong/flink/tree/FLINK-24024
>> >> [4]
>> >>
>> https://github.com/xuyangzhong/flink/tree/poc_legacy_group_window_agg_cumulate
>> >> [5]
>> >>
>> https://github.com/xuyangzhong/flink/tree/poc_window_agg_consumes_cdc_stream
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >>     Best!
>> >>     Xuyang
>>

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