+1 for the first option as well

Best,
Piotrek

śr., 7 lut 2024 o 16:48 Matthias Pohl <matthias.p...@aiven.io.invalid>
napisał(a):

> +1 for option 1 since it's a reasonable temporary workaround
>
> Moving to GitHub discussions would either mean moving the current FLIP
> collection or having the FLIPs in two locations. Both options do not seem
> to be optimal. Another concern I had was that GitHub Discussions wouldn't
> allow integrating diagrams that easily. But it looks like they support
> Mermaid [1] for diagrams.
>
> One flaw of the GoogleDocs approach is, though, that we have to rely on
> diagrams being provided as PNG/JPG/SVG rather than draw.io diagrams.
> draw.io
> is more tightly integrated with the Confluence wiki which allows
> editing/updating diagrams in the wiki rather than using some external tool.
> Google Draw is also not that convenient to use in my opinion. Anyway,
> that's a minor issue, I guess.
>
> Matthias
>
> [1]
>
> https://docs.github.com/en/get-started/writing-on-github/working-with-advanced-formatting/creating-diagrams
>
> On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 3:30 PM Lincoln Lee <lincoln.8...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Martijn moving this forward!
> >
> > +1 for the first solution, because as of now it looks like this is a
> > temporary solution and we're still looking forward to the improvement by
> > ASF Infra, when the access is ok for contributors, we can back to the
> > current workflow.
> >
> > For solution 2, one visible downside is that it becomes inconvenient to
> > look for flips (unless we permanently switch to github discussion).
> >
> > Looking forward to hearing more thoughts.
> >
> > Best,
> > Lincoln Lee
> >
> >
> > Martijn Visser <martijnvis...@apache.org> 于2024年2月7日周三 21:51写道:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > ASF Infra has confirmed to me that only ASF committers can access the
> > > ASF Confluence site since a recent change. One of the results of this
> > > decision is that users can't signup and access Confluence, so only
> > > committers+ can create FLIPs.
> > >
> > > ASF Infra hopes to improve this situation when they move to the Cloud
> > > shortly (as in: some months), but they haven't committed on an actual
> > > date. The idea would be that we find a temporary solution until anyone
> > > can request access to Confluence.
> > >
> > > There are a couple of ways we could resolve this situation:
> > > 1. Contributors create a Google Doc and make that view-only, and post
> > > that Google Doc to the mailing list for a discussion thread. When the
> > > discussions have been resolved, the contributor ask on the Dev mailing
> > > list to a committer/PMC to copy the contents from the Google Doc, and
> > > create a FLIP number for them. The contributor can then use that FLIP
> > > to actually have a VOTE thread.
> > > 2. We could consider moving FLIPs to "Discussions" on Github, like
> > > Airflow does at https://github.com/apache/airflow/discussions
> > > 3. Perhaps someone else has another good idea.
> > >
> > > Looking forward to your thoughts.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Martijn
> > >
> >
>

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