Hi,

I really like this idea as well, I think it would be a great improvement
compared to how manual savepoints currently work, and suits Kubernetes
workflows a lot better.

If there are no objections, I can investigate it during the next few weeks
and see how this could be implemented in the current code.

Cheers,
Mate

Gyula Fóra <gyula.f...@gmail.com> ezt írta (időpont: 2024. márc. 12., K,
16:01):

> That's definitely a good improvement Robert and we should add it at some
> point. At the point in time when this was implemented we went with the
> current simpler / more lightweight approach.
> However if anyone is interested in working on this / contributing this
> improvement I would personally support it.
>
> Gyula
>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 3:53 PM Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Have you guys considered making savepoints a first class citizen in the
> > Kubernetes operator?
> > E.g. to trigger a savepoint, you create a "FlinkSavepoint" CR, the K8s
> > operator picks up that resource and tries to create a savepoint
> > indefinitely until the savepoint has been successfully created. We report
> > the savepoint status and location in the "status" field.
> >
> > We could even add an (optional) finalizer to delete the physical
> savepoint
> > from the savepoint storage once the "FlinkSavepoint" CR has been deleted.
> > optional: the savepoint spec could contain a field "retain
> > physical savepoint" or something, that controls the delete behavior.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 4:02 AM Yang Wang <danrtsey...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I agree that we could start with the annotation approach and collect
> the
> > > feedback at the same time.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Yang
> > >
> > > Őrhidi Mátyás <matyas.orh...@gmail.com> 于2022年3月2日周三 20:06写道:
> > >
> > > > Thank you for your feedback!
> > > >
> > > > The annotation on the
> > > >
> > > > @ControllerConfiguration(generationAwareEventProcessing = false)
> > > > FlinkDeploymentController
> > > >
> > > > already enables the event triggering based on metadata changes. It
> was
> > > set
> > > > earlier to support some failure scenarios. (It can be used for
> example
> > to
> > > > manually reenable the reconcile loop when it got stuck in an error
> > phase)
> > > >
> > > > I will go ahead and propose a PR using annotations then.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Matyas
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 12:47 PM Yang Wang <danrtsey...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I also like the annotation approach since it is more natural.
> > > > > But I am not sure about whether the meta data change will trigger
> an
> > > > event
> > > > > in java-operator-sdk.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > Yang
> > > > >
> > > > > Gyula Fóra <gyula.f...@gmail.com> 于2022年3月2日周三 16:29写道:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks Matyas,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From a user perspective I think the annotation is pretty nice and
> > > user
> > > > > > friendly so I personally prefer that approach.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You said:
> > > > > >  "It seems, the java-operator-sdk handles the changes of the
> > > .metadata
> > > > > and
> > > > > > .spec fields of custom resources differently."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What implications does this have on the above mentioned 2
> > approaches?
> > > > > Does
> > > > > > it make one more difficult than the other?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > Gyula
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 1:52 PM Őrhidi Mátyás <
> > > matyas.orh...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi All!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'd like to start a quick discussion about the way we allow
> users
> > > to
> > > > > > > trigger savepoints manually in the operator [FLINK-26181]
> > > > > > > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-26181>. There are
> > > > > existing
> > > > > > > solutions already for this functionality in other operators,
> for
> > > > > example:
> > > > > > > - counter based
> > > > > > > <
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/spotify/flink-on-k8s-operator/blob/master/docs/savepoints_guide.md#2-taking-savepoints-by-updating-the-flinkcluster-custom-resource
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - annotation based
> > > > > > > <
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/spotify/flink-on-k8s-operator/blob/master/docs/savepoints_guide.md#3-taking-savepoints-by-attaching-annotation-to-the-flinkcluster-custom-resource
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We could implement any of these or both or come up with our own
> > > > > approach.
> > > > > > > It seems, the java-operator-sdk handles the changes of the
> > > .metadata
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > .spec fields of custom resources differently. For further info
> > see
> > > > the
> > > > > > > chapter Generation Awareness and Event Filtering in the docs
> > > > > > > <https://javaoperatorsdk.io/docs/features>.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Let me know what you think.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > Matyas
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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