Hi David,

I know finding a meeting time will be very hard; I am on the East coast of
the US.

Do you mean 11:30 AM or PM?  (I assume AM.). If there are others in the US,
we can work async or maybe there could be separate meetings for different
goals.

In case I cannot attend, I'd like to suggest that one focus could be
improving the build time.  If we reduce the build time first, it should
make committing other changes faster/easier.

Separately, if we could find some ways to prevent flaky tests from outright
failing the build, that would also speed up the process of contributing.

Cheers,

Jim

On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 5:51 PM David Radley <david_rad...@uk.ibm.com>
wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> I would like to have a kickoff meeting this week for us all to meet.
>
> In general, I would like these meeting to be working meetings. But for
> this first meeting I would like to discuss and agree:
>
>
>
>   *   Goals
>   *   Metrics
>   *   Ongoing meeting structure and timing
>
> I will collate any material from before the meeting on these areas and
> briefly present so we can discuss.
>
> We have a lot of people in Europe and India, who have expressed an
> interest. This first meeting will be on
>
> Thursday 14th of November 11:30 GMT for 30 minutes. I will advise on the
> web link in a later email.
>
> I hope this works for everyone / most people, let me know if there are any
> issues,
>     Kind regards, David.
>
> From: Nic Townsend <nictowns...@uk.ibm.com>
> Date: Thursday, 7 November 2024 at 17:26
> To: dev@flink.apache.org <dev@flink.apache.org>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: Flink technical debt.
> Hi Robert, David
>
> I am very much interested in a backlog review call – personally for two
> reasons:
>
>
>   1.  Learning a bit more about the state of Flink, understanding how each
> issue would be triaged (and understanding what/why the severity is)
>   2.  Seeing if there are any obvious places that I can help, it’s often
> easier for me hearing people describe the problem
>
> --
>
> Nic Townsend
> IBM Event Processing
> Senior Engineer / Technical Lead
>
> Slack: @nictownsend
>
>
>
> From: Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org>
> Date: Wednesday, 6 November 2024 at 15:22
> To: dev@flink.apache.org <dev@flink.apache.org>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Flink technical debt.
> Hey David,
>
> Thanks a lot for this initiative.
> What do you think about setting up a call weekly or every second week, open
> to the public, where we collaboratively review a backlog of Jira tickets
> and triage them into:
> - Closing,
> - following up,
> - assigning a committer owner?
>
> The purpose of the call is not to hide anything from anybody, it is just
> for quicker collaboration. All decisions from the calls need to end up in
> Jira and on the mailing lists
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2024 at 4:07 PM David Radley <david_rad...@uk.ibm.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > I have been looking at the Flink Jira and git. I see a large number of
> > Flink Jira issues that are open and critical or blockers
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-36655?jql=project%20%3D%20FLINK%20AND%20priority%20in%20(Blocker%2C%20Critical)
> > I realise some of these issues may not actually be critical as they have
> > been labelled by the submitter.
> >
> > I see 1239 open unmerged PRs
> > https://github.com/apache/flink/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen. Some of these
> > are not associated with assigned  issues, so may never be merged. This
> > amount of unmerged PRs, means that many people have put a lot of time and
> > effort into creating code that has not made it into the codebase, so they
> > do not get the credit for the contribution, which must be disheartening
> and
> > the codebase does not get the benefit of the contribution.
> >
> > This is a large amount of technical debt. I would like to help address
> > this problem by setting up a workgroup, with others in the community who
> > would like this addressed. The scope of the workgroup would be to improve
> > these numbers by activities such as:
> >
> >   *   Triaging PRs so it is easier for committers to merge or close them.
> >   *   Identifying prs that could be closed out as no longer relevant.
> >   *   Getting committer buy in.
> >
> > Are there other ideas from the community around how this could be
> improved
> > with or without a workgroup, or whether the existing processes should be
> > sufficient or enhanced?
> >
> > Is there an appetite to address this in the community? I am happy to
> drive
> > this as a community workgroup, with my team in IBM, if there is community
> > support.
> >
> > We could call the community workgroup ?Community Health Initiative? CHI
> to
> > energise the Flink community.
> >
> > WDYT?
> >
> > Kind regards, David.
> >
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>
> Unless otherwise stated above:
>
> IBM United Kingdom Limited
> Registered in England and Wales with number 741598
> Registered office: Building C, IBM Hursley Office, Hursley Park Road,
> Winchester, Hampshire SO21 2JN
>
> Unless otherwise stated above:
>
> IBM United Kingdom Limited
> Registered in England and Wales with number 741598
> Registered office: Building C, IBM Hursley Office, Hursley Park Road,
> Winchester, Hampshire SO21 2JN
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