Hi all,

Quick update on FLIP-545. I've realized the proposed
AsynchronousDispatcher design has a head-of-line blocking problem. If
a sink is slow but not failing, the single dispatch thread would block
and stall all other reporters. I've updated the design to a "Poll
Thread + Worker Pool" model to fix this. This gives us true isolation
against slow sinks, and properly delivers the FLIP's goals.

I've updated the FLIP GDoc [1] with this change. It primarily adds one
new config key along with some follow-up changes:
events.dispatcher.worker.threads. Could a committer please help sync
this to Confluence [2]?

Thanks,
Kartikey

[1] 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CCu7Js0ATOAgqRMS-kWj_0v0G_jt2r9IfMB2Oty7KJo/edit?usp=sharing
[2] 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-545%3A+Hardening+the+Event+Reporter+with+an+Asynchronous+Core

On Wed, Oct 1, 2025 at 12:08 PM Kartikey Pant
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Circling back on this thread.
>
> Thanks to the great feedback from the earlier discussion, the proposal has 
> been updated to use a more flexible, interface-based design. The final FLIP 
> is available on the Cwiki [1] (thanks, Piotr, for creating the page).
>
> My intention is to move this to a formal vote next week.
>
> Before I do, please raise any blocking concerns by this Friday, October 3rd. 
> If there are no blocking issues, I will start the [VOTE] thread on Monday.
>
> Thanks,
> Kartikey
>
> [1] 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-545%3A+Hardening+the+Event+Reporter+with+an+Asynchronous+Core
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 2, 2025 at 5:00 PM Piotr Nowojski <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Here you go:
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-545%3A+Hardening+the+Event+Reporter+with+an+Asynchronous+Core
>>
>> Best,
>> Piotrek
>>
>> pon., 1 wrz 2025 o 19:37 Kartikey Pant <[email protected]>
>> napisał(a):
>>
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > Thanks, Aleksandr, for the great suggestion on using an
>> > interface-based strategy. It's a much cleaner approach that ensures
>> > backward compatibility while keeping the design extensible.
>> >
>> > Based on this feedback, I've updated the FLIP document. The design now
>> > uses an EventDispatcher interface, controlled by a single
>> > events.dispatcher.type config key, allowing users to opt-in to the new
>> > asynchronous behavior.
>> >
>> > I believe the proposal has now stabilized. As I don't have Confluence
>> > write access, could a committer please help assign an official FLIP
>> > number this:
>> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CCu7Js0ATOAgqRMS-kWj_0v0G_jt2r9IfMB2Oty7KJo/edit?tab=t.0
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Kartikey Pant
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Aug 26, 2025 at 11:13 PM Aleksandr Iushmanov
>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hi Kartikey,
>> > >
>> > > Thank you for looking into this.
>> > >
>> > > I might not be very familiar with the naming conventions in Flink,
>> > > so please bear with me if my suggestion doesn't make complete sense.
>> > > I suggest introducing a feature flag, something like:
>> > >
>> > > > events.reporter.<name>.dispatcher.type
>> > >
>> > > which would default to *sync* to make this change backwards compatible.
>> > >
>> > > Also, are there any reasons why we would not want to introduce an
>> > > interface with two implementations?
>> > > 1. sync: for the existing behaviour.
>> > > 2. memory-queue: for the proposed implementation with the queue.
>> > >
>> > > This way:
>> > >
>> > >    - we don't break anything by default
>> > >    - we can change the default in future releases once it has been proven
>> > >    to be stable
>> > >    - we keep the door open for other implementations (e.g. file-based
>> > queue
>> > >    or spillover to logs).
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I look forward to hearing your thoughts on it.
>> > >
>> > > Kind regards,
>> > > Aleksandr Iushmanov
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 at 09:54, Kartikey Pant <[email protected]>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hi Aleksandr,
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks for the great feedback. Your points on guaranteed delivery and
>> > the
>> > > > *FileEventsReporter* are spot on, and I agree with your reasoning. I'll
>> > > > update the FLIP to incorporate them, as it will make the proposal much
>> > > > stronger.
>> > > >
>> > > > Regarding the delivery guarantee, I'll add a new configuration key,
>> > > > *events.reporter.<name>.delivery.guarantee*, to allow a choice between
>> > two
>> > > > modes. The default will be best-effort for the asynchronous,
>> > non-blocking
>> > > > dispatch. I'll also add a guaranteed mode for a synchronous, blocking
>> > > > dispatch that bypasses the queue, perfect for the critical autoscaling
>> > use
>> > > > case you mentioned.
>> > > >
>> > > > On your question about the *FileEventsReporter*, you're right that a
>> > local
>> > > > file append is cheap. The async core isn't really designed for the
>> > > > *FileEventsReporter* specifically, but for the general case where
>> > reporters
>> > > > write to network sinks (e.g., *OpenTelemetry*) where latency and
>> > > > backpressure are real concerns. The file reporter is just meant to be a
>> > > > simple, built-in option for users.
>> > > >
>> > > > I'll get these changes into the design doc shortly and will follow up
>> > on
>> > > > this thread once it's updated. Thanks again for helping improve the
>> > FLIP.
>> > > >
>> > > > Best,
>> > > > Kartikey
>> > > >
>> > > > On Thu, Aug 21, 2025 at 11:19 PM Aleksandr Iushmanov <
>> > [email protected]>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Hi Kartikey,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I like the idea and I agree with general direction, thank you for
>> > > > > putting it together!
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I have one concern about making this modification "forced", imho
>> > there
>> > > > > should be a room for "guaranteed important events delivery" from the
>> > > > > operations point of view. If Flink job is struggling/backpressured it
>> > > > > may make sense to emit some events at priority that would be used for
>> > > > > external triggers like "autoscaling" or external dynamic
>> > configuration
>> > > > > tuning.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Imho, interfaces should either allow to choose "sync" vs "non
>> > guaranteed
>> > > > > async" delivery for different events (or event reporters). With
>> > proposal
>> > > > > "as is" it won't be possible to "ensure" that important messages have
>> > > > > been delivered and can be actioned by external monitoring system.
>> > Could
>> > > > > we make "queue / async" behaviour opt-in?
>> > > > > Second question I had was around FileEventReporter implementation,
>> > at a
>> > > > > glance, "append to file" is a fairly cheap operation, do you have a
>> > > > > concern that amount of events is large enough to have significant
>> > > > > bottleneck on disk IO and requires memory queue?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Kind regards,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Aleksandr Iushmanov
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On 2025/08/19 06:56:36 Kartikey Pant wrote:
>> > > > >  > Hi everyone,
>> > > > >  >
>> > > > >  > I'd like to propose a new FLIP that builds directly on the
>> > excellent
>> > > > >  > foundation laid by FLIP-481 (Introduce Event Reporting). For
>> > anyone
>> > > > >  > needing context, the original proposal is available here:
>> > > > >  >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-481%3A+Introduce+Event+Reporting
>> > > > >  >
>> > > > >  > Now that the community has this powerful API, the logical next
>> > step is
>> > > > >  > to ensure it's fully robust for large-scale production
>> > environments
>> > > > >  > where users will be writing their own diverse, custom reporters.
>> > > > >  >
>> > > > >  > This proposal focuses on one key enhancement: introducing a
>> > resilient,
>> > > > >  > asynchronous dispatch core. The goal is to decouple event
>> > generation
>> > > > >  > from the reporter's execution, ensuring that a slow or
>> > experimental
>> > > > >  > sink can never impact Flink's core stability.
>> > > > >  >
>> > > > >  > I've drafted a detailed design document that I hope can form the
>> > basis
>> > > > >  > of this new FLIP:
>> > > > >  >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CCu7Js0ATOAgqRMS-kWj_0v0G_jt2r9IfMB2Oty7KJo/edit?usp=sharing
>> > > > >  >
>> > > > >  > I'm keen to get the community's initial feedback on this direction
>> > > > >  > before moving forward with the formal process.
>> > > > >  >
>> > > > >  > Thanks,
>> > > > >  > Kartikey Pant
>> > > > >  >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> >

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