I like the design. But one question: Relying on `toString()` in Production — What About Exceptions, Deadlocks, and Meaningless Output?
> Relying on `toString()` for data display in production jobs raises several > concerns: (1) Many user-defined POJOs either don't override `toString()` > (showing `com.foo.MyEvent@3a1b2c`) or have buggy implementations that could > throw exceptions or even deadlock (e.g., circular references with > lazy-loading ORMs). (2) Flink's internal types like `BinaryRowData` produce > unreadable binary dumps. (3) Calling `toString()` on user objects on the > **mailbox thread** means a poorly implemented `toString()` could block record > processing. How do you ensure this doesn't become a reliability risk in > production? > 2026年4月9日 17:27,Jiangang Liu <[email protected]> 写道: > > A detail performance test is as follows: > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NI5HCfnsWs9xyQ4MrdY6bY89phbegwS-JUPHA8kHKd4/edit?usp=sharing > > Jiangang Liu <[email protected]> 于2026年4月8日周三 17:36写道: > >> Hi, xiongraorao. Thanks for your question. We addressed this scalability >> scenario systematically in the design: >> >> 1. *Multi-layer capacity limits ensure bounded memory*: >> >> >> - >> >> At most *1,000 records* per subtask (BoundedSampleBuffer) >> - >> >> At most *5,000 total records* per response (Coordinator applies >> proportional fair truncation) >> - >> >> At most *10,000 characters* per record (max-record-length, truncated >> if exceeded) >> - >> >> At most *5 concurrent sampling rounds* per JM (excess requests are >> rejected immediately with TOO_MANY_CONCURRENT_ROUNDS) >> >> Worst-case estimate: 5 concurrent rounds × 5,000 records × 10KB = *250MB*. >> In practice, toString() output averages far less than 10KB, and 5 >> concurrent rounds means only 5 vertices are being sampled at any given >> moment. Given that JMs are typically configured with 4–8GB of heap memory, >> this upper bound is safe. >> >> 2. >> >> *Guava Cache with expireAfterWrite*: The cache uses refresh-interval >> (default 60s) as TTL and entries expire automatically. There is no >> unbounded accumulation. Even if all 500 vertices have been sampled at some >> point, caches with no new requests are GC'd after 60 seconds. In practice, >> the number of vertices actively viewed in the WebUI at any given moment is >> typically 3–5. >> 3. >> >> *Room to tighten further*: If the community feels it's necessary, we >> can add a rest.data-sampling.max-cached-vertices configuration (e.g., >> default 20) using Guava's maximumSize to cap the number of cached >> vertices. This is trivial to add in the initial version. >> 4. >> >> *JM Failover*: Sampling results are ephemeral diagnostic data and do >> not require persistence. Upon JM failover, all in-flight rounds' >> CompletableFutures fail naturally (TM connections are severed), and >> the cache is destroyed along with the old JM instance. The new JM starts >> with a clean state — users simply click again to trigger a fresh sampling >> round. This is fully consistent with how FlameGraph behaves during JM >> failover, a pattern already validated in production. >> >> >> 熊饶饶 <[email protected]> 于2026年4月8日周三 17:03写道: >> >>> Thanks for the flip. It is useful for users. I have only one question: JM >>> Memory Pressure Under High-Concurrency Sampling — Could It Cause OOM in >>> Large-Scale Jobs? >>> >>>> 2026年3月24日 12:24,Jiangang Liu <[email protected]> 写道: >>>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> I would like to start a discussion on FLIP-570: Support Runtime Data >>>> Sampling for Operators with WebUI Visualization [1]. >>>> >>>> Inspecting intermediate data in a running Flink job is a common need >>>> across development, data exploration, and troubleshooting. Today, the >>>> only options are modifying the job (print() sink, log statements — all >>>> require a restart) or deploying external infrastructure (extra Kafka >>>> topics, debug sinks). Both are slow and disruptive for what is >>>> essentially a "what does the data look like here?" question. >>>> >>>> FLIP-570 proposes native runtime data sampling, following the same >>>> proven architecture pattern as FlameGraph (FLINK-13550). The key ideas: >>>> >>>> 1. On-demand, round-scoped sampling at the output of any job vertex, >>>> triggered via REST API without job restart or topology modification. >>>> 2. A new "Data Sample" tab in the WebUI with auto-polling, subtask >>>> selector, and status-driven display. >>>> 3. Minimal overhead: zero when disabled; ~1.6% for the lightest ETL >>>> workloads when enabled-idle; <0.5% for typical production workloads. >>>> 4. Safety by default: disabled by default, with rate limiting, time >>>> budget, buffer caps, and round-scoped auto-disable. >>>> >>>> For more details, please refer to the FLIP [1]. >>>> >>>> Looking forward to your feedback and thoughts! >>>> >>>> [1] >>>> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-570%3A+Support+Runtime+Data+Sampling+for+Operators+with+WebUI+Visualization >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> Jiangang Liu >>> >>>
