Ah sorry Alan, did not see your reply to Owen. Mea culpa from me.
- Henry On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Alan Gates <[email protected]> wrote: > Sorry, apparently this was unclear, as others asked the same question. > Flink hasn't had any Apache releases yet. I was referring to the proposed > release that Robert sent out, > http://people.apache.org/~rmetzger/flink-0.6-incubating-rc7/ > > Alan. > > Sean Owen <[email protected]> > August 15, 2014 at 11:26 AM > PS, sorry for being dense, but I don't see vendor packages at > http://flink.incubator.apache.org/downloads.html ? > > Is it this page? > http://flink.incubator.apache.org/docs/0.6-SNAPSHOT/building.html > > That's more benign, just helping people rebuild for certain distros if > desired. Can the example be generified to refer to a fictional "ACME > Distribution"? But a note here and there about gotchas building for > certain versions and combos seems reasonable. > > I also find this bit in the build script, although vendor-specific, is > a small nice convenience for users: > https://github.com/apache/incubator-flink/blob/master/pom.xml#L195 > Owen O'Malley <[email protected]> > August 15, 2014 at 11:01 AM > As a mentor, I agree that vendor specific packages aren't appropriate for > the Apache site. (Disclosure: I work at Hortonworks.) Working with the > vendors to make packages available is great, but they shouldn't be hosted > at Apache. > > .. Owen > > > > Sean Owen <[email protected]> > August 15, 2014 at 10:32 AM > I hope not surprisingly, I agree. (Backstory: I am at Cloudera.) I > have for example lobbied Spark to remove CDH-specific releases and > build profiles. Not just for this reason, but because it is often > unnecessary to have vendor-specific builds, and also just increases > maintenance overhead for the project. > > Matei et al say they want to make it as easy as possible to consume > Spark, and so provide vendor-build-specific artifacts and such here > and there. To be fair, Spark tries to support a large range of Hadoop > and YARN versions, and getting the right combination of profiles and > versions right to recreate a vendor release was kind of hard until > about Hadoop 2.2 (stable YARN really). > > I haven't heard of any formal policy. I would ask whether there are > similar reasons to produce pre-packaged releases like so? > > Alan Gates <[email protected]> > August 15, 2014 at 10:24 AM > Let me begin by noting that I obviously have a conflict of interest since > my company is a direct competitor to Cloudera. But as a mentor and Apache > member I believe I need to bring this up. > > What is the Apache policy towards having a vendor specific package on a > download site? It is strange to me to come to Flink's website and see > packages for Flink with CDH (or HDP or MapR or whatever). We should avoid > providing vendor specific packages. It gives the appearance of preferring > one vendor over another, which Apache does not want to do. > > I have no problem at all with Cloudera hosting a CDH specific package of > Flink, nor with Flink project members working with Cloudera to create such > a package. But I do not think they should be hosted at Apache. > > Alan. > > > -- > Sent with Postbox <http://www.getpostbox.com> > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE > NOTICE: This message is intended for the use of the individual or entity > to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, > privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader > of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that > any printing, copying, dissemination, distribution, disclosure or > forwarding of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately > and delete it from your system. Thank You. >
