+1
This was much needed :)
2015.01.07. 18:10 ezt írta ("Max Michels" <m...@data-artisans.com>):

> Nice.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Ufuk Celebi <u...@apache.org> wrote:
> > +1
> >
> > @Stephan: thanks! :-)
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all!
> >>
> >> Since the feedback was positive, I added the guidelines to the wiki,
> with a
> >> disclaimer that this is being refined.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Apache+Flink+development+guidelines
> >>
> >> Stephan
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Kostas Tzoumas <ktzou...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > +1
> >> >
> >> > Let's encourage the use of component tags, I don't see the need for
> >> > enforcing it. For commits that affect one component, I expect people
> will
> >> > use it.
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Fabian Hueske <fhue...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > +1 for the guide and JIRA references.
> >> > >
> >> > > I'd keep the component tags optional though.
> >> > > As Max said, there is less space to display a meaning message if a
> >> commit
> >> > > addresses several components. Separating changes into commits by
> >> > components
> >> > > sounds not very practical to me.
> >> > > Also without a clear definition of when to add which component tag,
> we
> >> > > cannot rely on them anyway.
> >> > >
> >> > > Git should also have better tools than browsing commit messages when
> >> > > looking for a commit that changed specific code.
> >> > >
> >> > > 2015-01-07 15:24 GMT+01:00 Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org>:
> >> > >
> >> > > > I personally like the tags very much. I think the streaming
> component
> >> > was
> >> > > > the first to introduce it and it stuck me as a very good idea.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > +1 to stick with them
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Márton Balassi <
> >> > balassi.mar...@gmail.com
> >> > > >
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > I prefer component declarations, the current best practice
> comes in
> >> > > handy
> >> > > > > when searching through commits. Answering a "when did key
> selection
> >> > > > change
> >> > > > > for streaming?" type question I just had to answer would have
> been
> >> a
> >> > > bit
> >> > > > > more difficult without it - manageable though.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > In case of streaming it does not yield much to omit the
> component
> >> > > > > declaration, most of the time then we would need to add it to
> the
> >> > > commit
> >> > > > > message itself, e.g. :
> >> > > > > "[streaming] Join API rework", could be e.g. rewritten as "Join
> API
> >> > > > rework
> >> > > > > for streaming". I do prefer the former one, because it is not
> only
> >> > more
> >> > > > > straight-forward to understand, but a bit shorter as well.
> >> > > > > Of course there are counter-examples, like "[streaming]
> DataStream
> >> > > > > refactor" -> "DataStream refactor".
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I can accept optional, but would like to keep it strongly
> >> recommended
> >> > > for
> >> > > > > streaming. I also find the [docs] tag helpful.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > Should we put that to an official vote, or wait for people to
> >> > comment
> >> > > > and
> >> > > > > > (if nobody objects) consider it as agreed on through lazy
> >> > consensus?
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Márton Balassi <
> >> > > > balassi.mar...@gmail.com
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > +1 for the guide, thanks for clarifying the issue
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Till Rohrmann <
> >> > > trohrm...@apache.org>
> >> > > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > +1
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Aljoscha Krettek <
> >> > > > > aljos...@apache.org
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > Yes, we should have a guide like that somewhere.
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Stephan Ewen <
> >> > > se...@apache.org>
> >> > > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > We have not exactly defined this so far, but it is a
> good
> >> > > point
> >> > > > > to
> >> > > > > > do
> >> > > > > > > > so.
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > I personally find it good to have changes associated
> with
> >> > an
> >> > > > > issue,
> >> > > > > > > > > because
> >> > > > > > > > > > it allows you to trace back why the change was done.
> >> > > > > > > > > > To make sure we do not overdo this and impose totally
> >> > > > unnecessary
> >> > > > > > > > > overhead,
> >> > > > > > > > > > I would suggest the following:
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > *No issue is required for*
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >   - Small fixes like typos, simple warnings,
> >> > > adding/improving a
> >> > > > > > > comment
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >   - Adding and improving existing pages of the
> >> > documentation
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >   - Simple improvements of style / elegance /
> efficiency
> >> > > > (simple
> >> > > > > > > > > rewriting
> >> > > > > > > > > > a loop / condition / method interaction) if no
> behavior
> >> is
> >> > > > > changed
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > ==> Basically anything that does not change or add
> >> > > > functionality
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > *An issue is required for*
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > Everything else, in particular:
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >   - Anything that changes functionality or behavior
> >> > relevant
> >> > > to
> >> > > > > > users
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >   - Anything that changes functionality or behavior
> >> > relevant
> >> > > to
> >> > > > > > other
> >> > > > > > > > > > components
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >   - Anything that adds a feature
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > I would vote to allow coarse issues and have multiple
> >> > commits
> >> > > > > that
> >> > > > > > > > > > reference it
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > [FLINK-1234] [runtime] Runtime support some cool new
> >> thing
> >> > > > > > > > > > [FLINK-1234] [java api] Add hook for cool thing to
> java
> >> api
> >> > > > > > > > > > [FLINK-1234] [scala api] Add hook for that thing to
> scala
> >> > api
> >> > > > > > > > > > [FLINK-1234] [optimizer] Make optimizer aware that it
> can
> >> > > > exploit
> >> > > > > > > this
> >> > > > > > > > > > thing
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > -------------------------
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > The guide lines for pull-requests for committers are
> as
> >> > > > follows:
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > *A pull request with comments/additional signoff is
> >> > required
> >> > > > for
> >> > > > > > > > anything
> >> > > > > > > > > > that*
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >   - breaks the public APIs
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >   - adds methods to the public APIs (that will need
> to be
> >> > > kept
> >> > > > > > stable
> >> > > > > > > > > from
> >> > > > > > > > > > them on)
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >   - alters user-facing behavior (e.g., mutability of
> >> types,
> >> > > > null
> >> > > > > > > value
> >> > > > > > > > > > handling, window semantics, ...)
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >   - adds user-facing knobs (switches, config
> parameters,
> >> > > > > execution
> >> > > > > > > > option
> >> > > > > > > > > > on the execution environment)
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >   - adds additional maven dependencies
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >   - changes the way components interact
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >   - touches highly sensitive and performance critical
> >> > parts,
> >> > > > such
> >> > > > > > > > memory
> >> > > > > > > > > > management or network stack
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > ==> Changes that come with a pull request should have
> one
> >> > or
> >> > > > more
> >> > > > > > > > issues
> >> > > > > > > > > > associated with them.
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > Anyone that wants to have comments or some additional
> >> pairs
> >> > > of
> >> > > > > eyes
> >> > > > > > > in
> >> > > > > > > > > the
> >> > > > > > > > > > code should make a pull request as well.
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > -------------------------
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > *Naming scheme for commits*
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > [issue] [component] Message
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > For fixes without an issue, the issue can be dropped.
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > What do you think? Should we put this into the Wiki?
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > Greetings,
> >> > > > > > > > > > Stephan
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Aljoscha Krettek <
> >> > > > > > > aljos...@apache.org
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> >> > > > > > > > > > > I feel we never really talked about this. So,
> should we
> >> > > open
> >> > > > > Jira
> >> > > > > > > > > issues
> >> > > > > > > > > > > even for very small fixes and then add the ticket
> >> number
> >> > to
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > > > > > commit?
> >> > > > > > > > > > Or
> >> > > > > > > > > > > should we just commit those small fixes. Right now,
> I
> >> > have
> >> > > > two
> >> > > > > > > small
> >> > > > > > > > > > fixes
> >> > > > > > > > > > > (one is 4 lines, the other one is two lines) for the
> >> > > > > > ValueTypeInfo
> >> > > > > > > > and
> >> > > > > > > > > > > TextValueInputFormat. Very obscure stuff, I know. :D
> >> > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> >> > > > > > > > > > > Aljoscha
> >> > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
>

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