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> On Dec 22, 2017, at 1:23 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> 
> I created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-15710 
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-15710>. It seems that creating 
> mailing lists is now self service but is restricted to PMC chairs. Since I am 
> no longer a PMC chair I can’t access the application. 
> https://selfserve.apache.org <https://selfserve.apache.org/>. 
> 
> Hari, can you please create iss...@flume.apache.org and update the Jira issue 
> when it is completed?
> 
> Ralph
> 
> 
>> On Dec 19, 2017, at 1:35 PM, Mike Percy <mpe...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ralph,
>> My opinion is that we should move JIRA traffic to issues@flume.a.o and keep
>> review traffic (Reviewboard, GitHub PRs) on the dev list for now, because
>> the code review requests are relatively low volume and they are certainly
>> relevant to Flume developers - more so than much of the issue traffic.
>> FWIW, the commits already go to commits@.
>> 
>> We could try that out for a few months, and if automated traffic is still
>> interfering with our ability to have email conversations between human
>> individuals then we could also split that out into reviews@flume.a.o.
>> That's what we do in Apache Kudu but it seems like overkill for a project
>> with the volume of pull requests that Flume has right now.
>> 
>> My 2 cents,
>> Mike
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 7:48 AM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I’ll give this another day and if there are no objections I will go ahead
>>> and create Infra issues to do this.
>>> 
>>> Ralph
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 12, 2017, at 9:46 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I am proposing that we create a new list for automated messages. I am
>>> forwarding it here since it has only gotten replies from Hari and Mike on
>>> the dev list. The discussion really belongs on the dev list but you may not
>>> be seeing it due to the noise.
>>>> 
>>>> Ralph
>>>> 
>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: Hari Shreedharan <hshreedha...@apache.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Message Lists
>>>>> Date: December 11, 2017 at 1:41:11 PM MST
>>>>> To: dev@flume.apache.org
>>>>> Reply-To: dev@flume.apache.org
>>>>> 
>>>>> +1. I agree, we should move the private messages out.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Mike Percy <mpe...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> If necessary due to noise we can take this discussion back to private@
>>>>>> for a check-in.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Dec 10, 2017, at 9:15 AM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks Mike. Yours is the only feedback in a month. I am uncomfortable
>>>>>> contacting infra to make the changes based on so little input.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Dec 8, 2017, at 9:03 PM, Mike Percy <mpe...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sorry, I didn't see this message because of all the automated emails!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> +1 from me.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 9:43 PM, Ralph Goers <
>>>>>> ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Currently all the messages from Jenkins, Jira and GitHub land in
>>> this
>>>>>>>>> mailing list. That makes this mailing list very cluttered and it is
>>>>>> easy to
>>>>>>>>> miss discussions. Other projects use a “notifications” list to
>>> accept
>>>>>>>>> emails from those sources so the dev list can be left for
>>>>>> person-to-person
>>>>>>>>> discussions.  I would like to propose that Flume switch to this
>>> model.
>>>>>>>>> Another alternative would be to have separate lists for each of
>>> those
>>>>>>>>> sources. My personal viewpoint is simply separating the automated
>>>>>> emails is
>>>>>>>>> enough but I’d be willing to go along with any plan that moves the
>>>>>>>>> automated emails to another list.  I also think that doing this
>>> might
>>>>>>>>> increase the number of subscribers on the Flume dev list as lots of
>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>> don’t like to deal with all the extra email.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> All that said, it would be expected that all committers would
>>>>>> subscribe to
>>>>>>>>> these new lists.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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