> On Mar 8, 2022, at 12:39 PM, Sean Busbey <sbus...@apple.com.INVALID> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Mar 8, 2022, at 11:44 AM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 8, 2022, at 8:55 AM, Sean Busbey <sbus...@apple.com.INVALID> wrote:
>>> 
>>> - suggest all changes as PRs
>> 
>> Generally, I am OK with that. As there have been no commits and no other 
>> participants I didn’t see the point of doing PRs for all the work I have 
>> done so far for 1.10.0 as they would still be awaiting approval. In fact, I 
>> sent an email to the Flume private list in November informing them I was 
>> moving to CTR for this work due to the lack of activity in the project. I 
>> got approval for that from a couple of the active PMC members. However, I am 
>> happy to create PRs so you can review what I do before it gets committed 
>> from here.
>> 
> 
> I see. I only meant as a way to get contributions as compared to Jira 
> attachments. A move to CTR is significant though, I’ll make a note of it 
> while consolidating the contribution guide. Should I describe the plan as we 
> would stay CTR indefinitely? Or is this e.g. a short term way to get the 1.10 
> release out the door?
> 
> I like self-merged PRs as a foothold for new contributors to get involved in 
> reviews (as you noted). Over in Apache Yetus we use “Lazy Consensus” on PRs. 
> Essentially, a PR is merged at the sooner of a +1 (from any contributor) or 3 
> days elapsing since posting. I don’t mean to presume it would help Flume, but 
> it has worked really well for Yetus at balancing out when the small pool of 
> regulars has overlapping contribution time.

I would hope we would not stay with CTR indefinitely. But to have RTC you have 
to have people willing and able to perform reviews. I get very busy between my 
$dayjob and Log4j so I can’t always be as timely as one would like. I have no 
idea what Tristan’s availability is. Given your other ASF activities I don’t 
think getting your commit bit turned on here should be that hard. But once we 
have a number of people who can and do perform reviews it would be best to go 
back to RTC IMO. And yes, it would be impossible to get a 1.10.0 release using 
RTC.

I would wait to discuss how to implement RTC until we get back to the point 
where it makes sense.

Ralph


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