Hi Keith,

Thank you for the follow-up.

You are correct that FieldRoaringBitmap64Agg already exists in
fluss-server. I have updated the proposal accordingly. To clarify, the
32-bit scope is intended to keep the initial type system and SQL function
surface focused and deliverable, rather than being a limitation of the
aggregator itself. Since the server-side aggregator is already in place,
RBM64 will be a natural, low-risk follow-on once the type system and
pushdown infrastructure are established.

I have also removed the misleading motivation paragraph as you suggested.
The updated document is available at the same link. Additionally, I would
welcome Yang's input on the alignment with FIP-21.

Best regards,
Prajwal Banakar

On Wed, 11 Mar 2026 at 17:37, Keith Lee <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Prajwal,
>
> Thank you for addressing / answering the questions.
>
> > This proposal adds the missing bridge: a proper BITMAP DDL type, SQL
> functions (BITMAP_BUILD, BITMAP_OR_AGG, BITMAP_CARDINALITY), and pushdown
> via applyAggregates(). The storage-side aggregation logic already exists;
> this proposal makes it accessible end-to-end
>
> 1. That makes sense. I think the motivation section should lead with that
> and remove the following as it can be misleading given that rbm is
> supported by aggregation merge engine: “users requiring high-cardinality
> unique counting (e.g., UV analytics) must execute Client-Side Aggregation.
> The TabletServer is forced to send massive amounts of raw LogRecordBatch
> rows over the network to a Flink cluster for evaluation. This results in
> unnecessary network transfer and prevents efficient utilization of the
> existing aggregation merge engine.”
>
> 2. That makes sense. Thank you for the context.
>
> 3.
>
> > RBM64 requires a fundamentally different internal structure; a map of
> RBM32 chunks which increases implementation and serialization complexity
> significantly.
>
> My understanding is that the proposal wires existing
> FieldRoaringBitmap32Agg to support rbm32. FieldRoaringBitmap64Agg should
> already exist and handle the complexity that you mentioned?
>
> Additionally, it might be good for Yang to review / provide input on this
> given his work on FIP-21.
>
> Best regards
>
> Keith Lee
>
>
> On Wed, 11 Mar 2026 at 05:49, Prajwal Banakar <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Keith, thank you for the detailed feedback.
> >
> > 1. On motivation vs existing aggregation merge engine: The aggregation
> > merge engine in 0.9 supports rbm32/rbm64 at the storage level, but BITMAP
> > is not yet a first-class type in the DDL or type system. Users today must
> > declare the column as BYTES (as shown in the 0.9 release example:
> uv_bitmap
> > BYTES), and there are no SQL functions to build, merge, or query bitmaps
> > from Flink SQL. This proposal adds the missing bridge: a proper BITMAP
> DDL
> > type, SQL functions (BITMAP_BUILD, BITMAP_OR_AGG, BITMAP_CARDINALITY),
> and
> > pushdown via applyAggregates(). The storage-side aggregation logic
> already
> > exists; this proposal makes it accessible end-to-end.
> >
> > 2. On NULL semantics: BITMAP_OR(bitmap, NULL) returns NULL following
> > standard SQL scalar function semantics where NULL inputs propagate to
> NULL
> > outputs. BITMAP_OR_AGG follows aggregate function convention consistent
> > with how SUM and AVG behave, where NULLs in individual rows are skipped
> and
> > only a fully NULL input set returns NULL. This distinction follows
> FLIP-556
> > and StarRocks semantics.
> >
> > 3. On 32-bit scope: The proposal is scoped to 32-bit initially because
> > RoaringBitmap32 covers integer values up to 2^32 (~4 billion), which is
> > sufficient for most user ID and session ID use cases. RBM64 requires a
> > fundamentally different internal structure; a map of RBM32 chunks which
> > increases implementation and serialization complexity significantly.
> > Starting with 32-bit keeps the initial scope focused and deliverable.
> RBM64
> > support is listed as a Could-Have in the MoSCoW deliverables and can
> follow
> > in a subsequent iteration.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Prajwal Banakar
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 11 Mar 2026 at 01:34, Keith Lee <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Prajwal,
> > >
> > > Thank you for the detailed proposal. I enjoyed reading it and have a
> few
> > > questions/comments.
> > >
> > > 1. On motivation, can you provide context on how this differs with
> > > aggregation merge engine’s roaring bitmap implementation [1]?
> > Specifically,
> > > motivation part states that “users requiring high cardinality unique
> > > counting … must execute client-side aggregation”. Aggregation merge
> > engine
> > > performs aggregation on server-side. The motivation section should
> > clarify
> > > how the proposed changes improve or complement aggregation merge
> engine,
> > > which seems to have been considered as Section 2 references FIP-21
> > > Aggregation Merge Engine. Adding this context will help readers
> > understand
> > > the motivation of the proposal better.
> > >
> > > 2. Can you clarify the NULL semantics section specifically on the
> > decision
> > > on why BITMAP_OR(bitmap, NULL) returns NULL but BITMAP_OR_AGG only
> > returns
> > > null when all rows are NULL?
> > >
> > > 3. Why is the scope limited to 32 bit bitmaps? Adding the rationale
> > behind
> > > these e.g. how (if any) support of 64bit bitmaps would increase
> > > implementation complexity. Articulating these may help other
> contributors
> > > understand the complexity and perhaps come up with suggestions on how
> to
> > > address them.
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > >
> > > Keith Lee
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://fluss.apache.org/blog/releases/0.9/#2-storage-level-processing--semantics
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 9 Mar 2026 at 05:31, Prajwal Banakar <
> [email protected]
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Devs,
> > > >
> > > > I have pushed a working prototype to my public fork demonstrating the
> > > > BitmapType integrated with FieldRoaringBitmap32Agg. This includes
> four
> > > > passing unit tests.
> > > >
> > > > The link to the prototype is available in the Google Doc, and you can
> > > also
> > > > find it here:
> > > >
> https://github.com/Prajwal-banakar/fluss/tree/RoaringBitmap-prototype
> > > >
> > > > The Google Doc link remains the same. I look forward to your
> feedback.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Prajwal Banakar
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, 1 Mar, 2026, 11:49 am Prajwal Banakar, <
> > > [email protected]
> > > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > >
> > > > > I would like to start a discussion on the proposal for Native
> Bitmap
> > > > > Integration & Stateless Pushdown Aggregation.
> > > > >
> > > > > This proposal enables end-to-end native support for the BITMAP type
> > in
> > > > > Fluss and integrates it with the existing aggregation merge engine
> to
> > > > > support server-side bitmap union pushdown. The goal is to reduce
> > > network
> > > > > transfer and offload DISTINCT-style aggregation from Flink to the
> > > > > TabletServer.
> > > > >
> > > > > Key highlights of the proposal include:
> > > > >
> > > > > - Type System: Promoting BITMAP to a first-class logical type.
> > > > > - UDF Suite: Introducing BITMAP_BUILD, BITMAP_OR_AGG, and
> > > > > BITMAP_CARDINALITY (aligned with FLIP-556 and StarRocks semantics).
> > > > > - Optimizer: Planner-based pushdown via applyAggregates in the
> Flink
> > > > > connector.
> > > > > - Safety: No changes to LogRecordBatch or WAL, making this strictly
> > > > > additive and migration-free.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can find the full proposal document here:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sDhfkmo-w-UTvo2n3rsY1lytSSryswfkI83cSdka8s0/edit?usp=sharing
> > > > >
> > > > > I would appreciate feedback on the public interfaces, pushdown
> > > > > constraints, and overall scope.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > Prajwal Banakar
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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