On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 09:29 +0200, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > Thorsten Scherler wrote: > > On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 21:23 +0200, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > > > >>Thorsten Scherler wrote: > >> > >>>On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 13:42 +0200, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > >>... > >>>> - making a skin have a default skinconf that can be overridden: in > >>>>this way, all Apache could have an Apache skin with the copyright > >>>>already set, and a consistent look; > >>> > >>>Hmm, in 0.8 we will not have the traditional skins that we have right > >>>now. They become views based on contracts. > >> > >>I hope that's not what we are going to tell our users =-) > > > > Why not? We are >1.0 and we are enhancing everyday. Why should I not > > tell the user that the things we have done before now we can do better? > > Don't get me wrong. I'm just talking about the wording, not the > substance, which I feel is the right way forward. I don't think that > many users would feel Forrest is easy, if to change style they have to > change the "views based on contracts". ;-)
Ok :) Reading it sounds REALLY awkward. ;-) LOL > > >>>This contracts can be written > >>>the way you just suggested. Create a default copyright contract that can > >>>be used apache wide. > >>> > >>>....BUT I would not suggest to keep it in the skinconf. The skinconf is > >>>to inflexible due to the fact that it is configuring the WHOLE site and > >>>not only on a per page/document base. What would you do when you have a > >>>one page or a couple of pages with different copyright notices? > >> > >>This is part of the other thread, the per-page based properties. > >>Skinconf should be only the default for each section or page, that can > >>overried it's values, I agree. > >> > >>I think I have to stop here on this, as one should now mix that thread > >>with this conclusion and come to a unified design, and I'm too tired. > >> > >>Wanna try? :-) > > > > I am not only trying, dude. It is out there! Install the plugins and > > have a look. > > I'm talking about unifiend the new skinconf format with the more > granular configuration Ross discussed about. I know that you did a very > good job with the view concept, that has never been in question. > Cheers. > > I am talking since November last year about the concept and finally got > > the chance to implement it because I could take the time. > > > > I know that the skins are coming from you and they are REALLY great but > > they have their limitations. In the future I HOPE that the same some > > committer will say regarding the view concept (I am already seeing > > limitations that I do not like). > > > > It is not about an unified design it is about to make it happen. I would > > be VERY HAPPY if you can/will enhance the ideas and the design. > > > > To be honest I am only implementing it because I want to use forrest for > > my own personal webpage (nothing more and nothing less) and I am sad > > that you are tired because YOU ARE the one that we need to make it > > really a success. > > > > ....but I guess that is your personal decision and I respect it because I > > respect your work. > > Sorry, I think you misunderstood, and I think it's my fault :-/ > I am sorry as well I jumped the gun here. > I just said I'm tired not because of this discussion, but because I > start working at 7:30 and go to bed at midnight and work on Sundays. > Dude, that is REALLY heavy I hope it will get better for you in the near future. > I mean that I would like to help, and that I agree with the discussion > and your work on the views, and that the evolution from the current > skins is what I want to see... but that unfortunately, as much as I > would like to help, I'm too tired because of a lot of real-life work I > have to do now. > I perfectly understand you. I am lucky that I got some projects that gave me some more freedom, but that will change as well again with the coming week where another busy project will take off. > Sorry for the confusion :-/ > No worries, mate. Thanks for your explanations. :) All the best for you and I hope your real-life work will get a wee bit more relaxed (it is not really healthy to work as much, you need time to relax). Sorry for jumping the gun. salu2 -- thorsten "Together we stand, divided we fall!" Hey you (Pink Floyd)
