Thorsten Scherler wrote:
El vie, 30-09-2005 a las 17:08 +0100, Ross Gardler escribió:
Thorsten Scherler wrote:
Why do we want to release 0.8, now?
release early, release often. This was discussed and agreed a month or
so ago.
+1
...
Besides, the locationmap is, in itself, a very powerful tool that makes
it possible for Forrest to be used for the apache site-build proposal
(which is gathering pace again). see
http://people.apache.org/~rgardler/site-build/summary.html
totally agree. but being devils advocate and seeing:
http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/forrest/trunk/main/webapp/locationmap.xml?view=markup
makes me ask what do we want to release?
See below, with respect to the work that needs doing before a release.
Being even more devils advocate let me ask if we want to release 08 as:
0.8 - refactored sitemaps to utilise locationmap
who is going to do this work?
See below, with respect to the work that needs doing before a release.
The only harm I see is a very long development schedule to the next
release which will hold up the release of the locationmap, which in turn
will hold up the release/development of some important (to me only?)
plugins (e.g. Daisy, Lenya, Amazon ECS) and attraction of users/devs to
Forrest (through Apache site-build)
Totally agree but we really have not put too much work in refactoring
the *whole* sitemaps to lm.
See below, with respect to the work that needs doing before a release.
-1 to release anything right now!
It's not right now it's once the sitemaps are refactored (which I will
do in the coming weeks).
Actually that is the point, why you only? Refactoring the sitemaps can
be done by *all* committers. There is no secrets to it.
That is correct. However, this is Open Source. It is done by those wo
have the itch. I have the itch, I will do it (and lets not forget that
Tim has done lots of preparatory work for me/us).
This is a *much* smaller job than the
XHTML2/views integration. Making core a plugin framework (0.9) paves the
way for integration of the views plugins (0.10) by cleaning up core even
more.
Actually I will be able to in-cooperate views as soon the jxpath-1.2
problem is solved. Thanks to Antonio, David et. al. that spend a lot of
time solving the problem I think latest in 0.9 views are in the core
and will make skins obsolete (can be earlier if we solve the
linkrewritter/jxpath bug). I am right now as well looking into blocks
and trying to make views a cocoon block.
Yes, my proposal is only an outline, things can come in a different
order if that, is what happens.
Does a 0.8 release prevent you from continuing work on the views stuff?
Is there really a need for a -1?
A release can be done when I see the lm stuff. *Or* we refocus the
release.
See above about the work still needing to be done and who has th time +
itch to do it.
Like you stated they are other components that actually are
justifying a release and we do not have to refactor all pipes for it.
True.
Ross
