Ross Gardler wrote: > David Crossley wrote: > > > >I don't quite know the history of Incubator, but i presume > >that people got excited about eating Apache dogfood and > >decided to go with Forrest. Perhaps the original proponents > >moved on. Now it seems that people are not happy with it, > >finding it cumbersome. I have heard some people say > >that they can't actually point to any particular thing. > >Mostly it is just silence and lack of use. > > Well, I am moving towards Forrest being able to generate/host multiple > related sites. I'm thinking that Incubator is the place to work on this. > > Wouyld you think this is a good idea.
No. That is not their problem. The top-level Apache Incubator website is totally separate from each incubating project. The projects each have their own SVN and website generation procedures. Some of them use forrest, some use maven. > >I don't know what to do about this. At the least > >i thought to send this mail because the Forrest PMC > >should be aware that there is something happening that > >could be damaging for our project. People are gumbling. > > We need to encourage them to grumble on ur users lists not on unrelated > lists. I was not aware, until comments were made on other lists, of any > problems within Incubator (interestingly there were positive commets > from the XML people). That doesn't seem to happen. Many of the grumbles do happen on other lists. > >We need to look at ways of making it more user-friendly. > >It is obviously not easy or the incubator.apache.org > >issues would not arise. > > I am going to join the incubator list next week and try and work out > what is happening. I started: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=113108607500002 "simplifying the generation of Incubator website" One major issue has already been identified. I will start a separate thread here on forrest-dev for that. -David > >Perhaps the problem is documentation for how to install > >and use forrest. These projects have a smattering > >of their own documentation for how to use it, but often > >it is poor and way out-of-date. Perhaps we need to > >write a document focussed on use of Forrest at Apache. > > +1 > > >Perhaps we need to actively go out and ask those > >Apache projects that use Forrest, what they see as > >the hindrance. It seems to me that people must be > >grumbling but not actually saying that they have issues > >or perhaps not being able to define the issues. > > +100 > > Ross
