Thorsten Scherler wrote:
El jue, 09-03-2006 a las 21:18 +1100, David Crossley escribió:

Thanks Tim, your comments are spot on.


Agreed.

...

Thorsten, don't take any of this personally.
We are still a new project and need to set our
direction. As before i am using real-life
situations to mould that.


Well, lucky for me I am not soft-skinned and had enough opportunities to
grow it thick.

;-) that's good.

I think we should not change the link texts from live sites.

Perhaps it should have been discussed before being changed. But for the record I would have been +1 for changing, my reasoning having been expressed elsewhere in this thread.

I understand your point that live sites is for users but you are not a user and the comment was referring to you as a developer of Forrest. What you say on your own private sites, as Tim observed, is a whole different matter.

I see this current situation as an important
aspect of community-building.


Well, or the opposite. See the mail from Maurice.

Without an understanding of the importance of community one would never be voted in as a committer. There are many people who do not agree with the importance of community and they usually join none ASF-like projects.

NOTE: the above comment is *my* opinion, not necessarily that of the Forrest project, people with conflicting opinions should not feel that the above *personal* opinion in any way diminishes the importance of your own views. Please speak up and disagree if you feel it is necessary.

It is not about the "history". Anyone who
is interested can find that in the archives
or we can try to build a concise timeline.


With information from the archive and svn/cvs this is *really* time
consuming. Further how should new people know what to look for? The
argument "it is all in the archive and in the commit log" is like
telling somebody looking for a needle in a haystack.

Its not so difficult in http://forrest.apache.org/docs_0_80/changes.html which is the official published history of the project, the rest are all artifacts.

Ross