Ross Gardler wrote: > Thorsten Scherler wrote: > >Ross Gardler escribi??: > > > >>The Drawbacks > >>============= > >> > >>What are the drawbacks of getting rid of Cocoon? > >> > >>Probably the biggest drawback would be that we have to code it. There's > >>not a huge amount of work to be done, but there are some neat things in > >>Cocoon that we would have to reimplement or find elsewhere. We may be > >>able to extract some of the code from Cocoon, but I'm not convinced this > >>is a good approach. > >> > >>Because of this need to write the code it will mean that Forrest would > >>initially take a step backwards in terms of its functionality. > > > >The other thing is that the existing community is right now pretty much > >cocoon orientate. Dropping cocoon in 2.x can have the side effect that > >the current community *may* loose interest in forrest (cocoon have been > >a big selling point in the past). > > > >The critical question is, how many people (as devs) can we attract to > >join the rewrite dropping cocoon, taking a step back in functionality, > >focusing on java for new components? > > > >How many committer and devs will work on branch, how many on trunk, how > >many on both? > > > >I hope to see a healthy discussion, which will give some leads regarding > >above questions. > > This is very important, thanks for highlighting it. > > I'd like to ask how many developers here do anything other than write > XML and XSLT in Forrest?
(We need to hear responses from all Forrest developers on these questions.) Me. I use the sitemap extensively. I don't call that simply "writing XML". I don't need to create new Cocoon Generators or Transformers because the default set from Cocoon provides more than i need. > How many actually use Forrest in an environemnt where it is doing > anything more than building a website? It depends what do you mean by "website"? I use web technologies on my internal network and i have some complex public websites. For example, i have a Forrest server running on my desktop which scrapes remote web pages to extract recent stock market announcements and show me only the stocks that i am interested in. I have one public website that i can show you that is more that "just a website". It processes data and generates reports. See "Z-alarm" on our "Example sites" page. > I'd suggest that the thing to do is ensure that we support the building > of simple websites quickly in order to quickly support what I suspect is > the vast majority of our users. Why would such people be using Forrest? If they only want simple websites, then there are plenty of other tools out there. -David
