If you are going to implement these directly as
TemplateDirectiveModel-s and TemplateFunctionModel-s, then you better
wait until I merge at least the FREEMARKER-63 PR... probably also
FREEMARKER-64. I will try to do that tonight. At least 63.

Besides, just to be absolutely clear, I would merge your current PR as
well, if it doesn't raise licensing issues, which is of course a
blocker.


Monday, August 7, 2017, 4:23:26 PM, Woonsan Ko wrote:

> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 6:14 AM, Daniel Dekany <[email protected]> wrote:
>> The big problem is that spring.ftl is copyrighted by some of the
>> Spring authors (or the Spring project as a whole - it's not clear). So
>> certainly we can't just copy it. It has to be reimplemented without
>> looking at the source, or something absurd like that. Perhaps the best
>> is to start out from the spring JSP taglib, as that's the most widely
>> used templating solution (I assume), so certainly that's the one where
>> all the features are exposed.
>>
>> I wonder if using #import + FTL is the best way of adding
>> framework-level functionality that's used by a lot of people. It's
>> surely an OK way, but it's not the highest performance way. The other
>> way is using a shared variable (or some other kind of commonly visible
>> variable) and implement the library in Java using
>> TemplateDirectiveModel-s and TemplateFunctionModel-s. It's less
>> convenient than doing it in FTL, but it has to be done once, while you
>> save some resources everywhere where it's used. Though as most of
>> these macros/functions are quite simple, I don't think the performance
>> difference matters much. But, it also avoids the legal issue above. I
>> mean, many of these function/macros are so trivial, that it's hard to
>> implement them on a different way in FTL than as it is in the Spring
>> source code, but if you implement them in Java, then it's much harder
>> to accuse anyone with stealing. (A minor annoyance right now is that
>> that part of the FreeMarker API is not yet settled; see FREEMARKER-63,
>> FREEMARKER-64, FREEMARKER-65. But hopefully it will be in a good
>> enough shape soon. And see other thread; input is welcome!)
>>
>> As of template aliases, at the first glance that's fine. Note that
>> there's MultiTemplateLoader which does something similar, but I assume
>> it would be less neat (and/or slower) to do this with that. (But if
>> the spring functionality won't be #import-ed after all (as above), the
>> whole thing can become unnecessary...)
>
> Thank you very much for sharing your insights. Greatly helpful advice.
> I agree that it might be better with template model(s) rather than
> library FTL in various aspects.
> Let me try with that approach again and let you know soon with a new PR.
>
> Thank again,
>
> Woonsan
>
>>
>>
>> Sunday, August 6, 2017, 7:22:00 AM, ASF GitHub Bot (JIRA) wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>     [
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FREEMARKER-55?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=16115649#comment-16115649
>>>  ]
>>>
>>> ASF GitHub Bot commented on FREEMARKER-55:
>>> ------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> GitHub user woonsan opened a pull request:
>>>
>>>     https://github.com/apache/incubator-freemarker/pull/31
>>>
>>>     FREEMARKER-55: spring.ftl marco lib support
>>>
>>>     - Support <#import "/spring.ftl" as spring> like Spring Framework does.
>>>     - By default, the system lib from /spring.ftl is read from the
>>> specific classpath, not from app's template path.
>>>        The system template aliases map can be customized through
>>> SpringResourceTemplateLoader.systemTemplateAliases property.
>>>     - The same macros and functions are defined in /spring.ftl as
>>> Spring Framework's, with syntax changes to comply with FM3.
>>>     - Note: As the system template lib support is handled by
>>> SpringTemplateLoader in this PR, it means developers should always
>>> use SpringTemplateLoader directly or indirectly in order to use the
>>> system macro library. Please review this decision.
>>>     - TODOs: review/test/refine each macro and functions in spring.ftl.
>>>
>>> You can merge this pull request into a Git repository by running:
>>>
>>>     $ git pull https://github.com/woonsan/incubator-freemarker 
>>> feature/FREEMARKER-55
>>>
>>> Alternatively you can review and apply these changes as the patch at:
>>>
>>>     https://github.com/apache/incubator-freemarker/pull/31.patch
>>>
>>> To close this pull request, make a commit to your master/trunk branch
>>> with (at least) the following in the commit message:
>>>
>>>     This closes #31
>>>
>>> ----
>>> commit 8e0f33c419d982279d7fb22a9dfdc66f47abaf2c
>>> Author: Woonsan Ko <[email protected]>
>>> Date:   2017-07-14T15:27:17Z
>>>
>>>     FREEMARKER-55: Renaming Freemarker to FreeMarker
>>>
>>> commit ec8d687d4ce2c0e1bb3e3ca073b139eacc198527
>>> Author: Woonsan Ko <[email protected]>
>>> Date:   2017-07-14T15:53:51Z
>>>
>>>     Merge branch '3' into feature/FREEMARKER-55
>>>
>>> commit e7cb6f7cfc241689c85527971bf6e1ea7ced9127
>>> Author: Woonsan Ko <[email protected]>
>>> Date:   2017-07-14T17:57:29Z
>>>
>>>     Merge branch '3' into feature/FREEMARKER-55
>>>
>>> commit c6eb09de91e57035c1e0e3c4d3490b3b96622bab
>>> Author: Woonsan Ko <[email protected]>
>>> Date:   2017-07-16T18:24:55Z
>>>
>>>     Merge branch '3' into feature/FREEMARKER-55
>>>
>>> commit 870209fa8e0acd0bb3186053dfd549b5c758e37d
>>> Author: Woonsan Ko <[email protected]>
>>> Date:   2017-07-18T00:38:03Z
>>>
>>>     Merge branch '3' into feature/FREEMARKER-55
>>>
>>> commit 4481406a2f4eeb30d6d044a4ac158efab7ba7a7b
>>> Author: Woonsan Ko <[email protected]>
>>> Date:   2017-08-06T01:28:54Z
>>>
>>>     Merge branch '3' into feature/FREEMARKER-55
>>>
>>> commit fcd9e672ec515e3042bc5efd229b7d12c23e7d88
>>> Author: Woonsan Ko <[email protected]>
>>> Date:   2017-08-06T05:09:12Z
>>>
>>>     FREEMARKER-55: system template lib for spring app: spring.ftl.
>>>
>>> ----
>>>
>>>
>>>> FM3 freemarker-spring module, Web MVC support
>>>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>                 Key: FREEMARKER-55
>>>>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FREEMARKER-55
>>>>             Project: Apache Freemarker
>>>>          Issue Type: Task
>>>>    Affects Versions: 3.0.0
>>>>            Reporter: Daniel Dekany
>>>>
>>>> Add Spring "Web MVC framework" functionality to freemarker-spring.
>>>> This can be complex task (and the issue possibly has to be subdivided), as 
>>>> it involves things like:
>>>> * Some aspects of the FreeMarker 2 integration (developed by the Spring 
>>>> developers) are quite confusing ({{FreemarerConfigurer}}, etc.), and we 
>>>> are looking into if it needs to be like that.
>>>> * See if we can support {{@EnableWebMvc}} (note that FreeMarker 2 support 
>>>> is hard coded into {{ViewResolverRegistry}}, which we can't modify)
>>>> * Creating custom directives/methods to expose Spring features like the 
>>>> Spring JSP Tag Library does (but in a way that firs FreeMarker better)
>>>> * Expose JSP custom tag support from the {{freemarker-servlet}} module.
>>>> Depends on: FREEMARKER-54
>>>
>>>
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>>  Daniel Dekany
>>
>

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