Will doing this  in the test,

final Host host = Host.getHost(0);
VM server1 = host.getVM(startingVersion, 0);

be frowned upon, if I use the above over using @Rule.

Regards
Nabarun Nag

> On Nov 21, 2018, at 10:36 AM, Robert Houghton <rhough...@pivotal.io> wrote:
> 
> Great find, Patrick. I hope this shakes out some of the test bugs!
> 
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2018, 10:34 Patrick Rhomberg <prhomb...@apache.org wrote:
> 
>> tl;dr: Use JUnit RuleChain.
>> ----
>> 
>> Hello all!
>> 
>> Several [1] of our test @Rule classes make use of the fact that our DUnit
>> VMs Host is statically accessible to affect every test VM.  For instance,
>> the SharedCountersRule initializes a counter in every VM, and the
>> CleanupDUnitVMsRule bounces VMs before and after each test.
>> 
>> Problematically, JUnit rules applied in an unpredictable / JVM-dependent
>> ordering. [2]  As a result, some flakiness we find in our tests may be the
>> result of unexpected interaction and ordering of our test rules. [3]
>> 
>> Fortunately, a solution to this problem already exists.  Rule ordering can
>> be imposed by JUnit's RuleChain. [4]
>> 
>> In early exploration with this rule, some tests failed due to the RuleChain
>> not being serializable.  However, as it should only apply to the test VM,
>> and given that it can be composed of (unannotated) rules that remain
>> accessible and serializable, it should be a simple matter of declaring the
>> offending field transient, as it will only be necessary in the test VM.
>> 
>> So, you dear reader: while you're out there making Geode the best it can
>> be, if you find yourself in a test class that uses more than one rule
>> listed in [1], or if you notice some other rule not listed below that
>> reaches out to VMs as part of its @Before or @After, please update that
>> test to use the RuleChain to apply the rules in a predictable order.
>> 
>> Imagination is Change.
>> ~Patrick
>> 
>> [1] A probably-incomplete list of invasive rules can be found via
>> $> git grep -il inEveryVM | grep Rule.java
>> 
>> geode-core/src/distributedTest/java/org/apache/geode/management/ManagementTestRule.java
>> geode-dunit/src/main/java/org/apache/geode/test/dunit/rules/CacheRule.java
>> 
>> geode-dunit/src/main/java/org/apache/geode/test/dunit/rules/ClientCacheRule.java
>> 
>> geode-dunit/src/main/java/org/apache/geode/test/dunit/rules/DistributedDiskDirRule.java
>> 
>> geode-dunit/src/main/java/org/apache/geode/test/dunit/rules/DistributedRule.java
>> 
>> geode-dunit/src/main/java/org/apache/geode/test/dunit/rules/DistributedUseJacksonForJsonPathRule.java
>> 
>> geode-dunit/src/main/java/org/apache/geode/test/dunit/rules/SharedCountersRule.java
>> 
>> [2] See the documentation for rules here:
>> https://junit.org/junit4/javadoc/4.12/org/junit/Rule.html ; notably,
>> "However,
>> if there are multiple [Rule] fields (or methods) they will be applied in an
>> order that depends on your JVM's implementation of the reflection API,
>> which is undefined, in general."
>> 
>> [3] For what it's worth, this was discovered after looking into why the
>> DistributedRule check fo suspicious strings caused the test *after* the
>> test that emitted the strings to fail.  It's only tangentially related, but
>> got me looking into when and how the @After was getting applied.
>> 
>> [4] https://junit.org/junit4/javadoc/4.12/org/junit/rules/RuleChain.html
>> 

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