Unfortunately, I do think the attic is a very real possibility. @John Blum <jb...@vmware.com> Officially, I do not think we (Geode) or ASF have any type of release support policy (I searched but could not find anything), it is open-source for better or worse. VMware or any other company can pick up support if they so choose. Would have it been better for corporate sponsors to give support to a final release and give a proper send off? Yes, but we are where we are now. As for artifacts, yes they will live and remain as-is.
--Mark On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 1:47 PM John Blum <jb...@vmware.com.invalid> wrote: > How does the VMware’s non-disclosed date commitment factor into this > equation? > > I mean, clearly the Apache Geode 1.15 release has a lifecycle and support > timeline, even if the community (and a new PMC) does drive the project any > further? > > What happens when CVEs, or critical bugs (involving data loss) are > uncovered in 1.15, yet? What even is 1.15’s support timeline and overall > lifecycle? I would have assumed this would minimally have been 1 year from > the GA of 1.15.0. > > Regarding, “Geode maven artifacts would remain available from Maven > Central.” > > This is absolutely critical and necessary for Apache Geode’s ecosystem of > projects (for example, Spring for Apache Goede, such as Spring Boot and > Data for Apache Geode) to continue to build and release against Apache > Geode versions/bits until the end of the ecosystem project’s (e.g. SDG) > support timeline. > > -John > > > From: Owen Nichols <onich...@vmware.com.INVALID> > Date: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 11:50 AM > To: dev@geode.apache.org <dev@geode.apache.org> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Move geode to the attic > ⚠ External Email > > Once moved to the attic, it sounds like: > > * The geode github repo would become read-only (but remain > world-readable in perpetuity). > * Geode would no longer be available for download on the geode > download site or mirrors (but still available in releases tab in github). > * Geode maven artifacts would remain available from mavencentral. > * Geode homebrew formula would no longer be installable. > * Unsure whether apachegeode/geode docker image would remain available? > * Geode confluence wiki would become read-only. > * It sound like the user mailing list may be able to remain active? > > Since no further release are possible without at least 3 active PMC > members to provide the requisite 3 approving PMC votes, the Attic sounds > like the best possible way to leave things. > > From: Dan Smith <dasm...@vmware.com.INVALID> > Date: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 11:12 AM > To: dev@geode.apache.org <dev@geode.apache.org> > Subject: [DISCUSS] Move geode to the attic > ⚠ External Email > > Hi folks, > > Unfortunately, it is time to consider moving Geode to the Apache attic. > After VMware's announcement that it will stop contributing to Geode, we've > tried in the last couple months to recruit additional contributors to > continue supporting the project [1]. However, this last week there was a > PMC role call on the private list and it appears we will only have one > active PMC member after the VMware folks completely leave. > > I think at this point the responsible thing to do is dissolve the Geode > PMC and move the project to the attic, unless some new contributors > suddenly show up. We need a minimum of 3 PMC members to keep the project > viable. > > This is not yet a vote. I'll let this discussion run this week and start a > vote next week. I believe even if we vote to dissolve the project and move > to the attic, the soonest that process would start would be after the > November board meeting [2]. > > Thanks, > -Dan > > [1] > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.apache.org%2Fthread%2Fd88byb42gm5wplzqwkgywg3w9vtj64dr&data=05%7C01%7Cjblum%40vmware.com%7C482d2bf794ef46bd167508dab1399813%7Cb39138ca3cee4b4aa4d6cd83d9dd62f0%7C0%7C0%7C638017158176942172%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=eRrcPuf2Ccnkj1SIOWs%2B%2BRwjgiJch0T%2FnbYt2NMt78A%3D&reserved=0 > [2] > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fattic.apache.org%2Fprocess.html&data=05%7C01%7Cjblum%40vmware.com%7C482d2bf794ef46bd167508dab1399813%7Cb39138ca3cee4b4aa4d6cd83d9dd62f0%7C0%7C0%7C638017158176942172%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=PcH23xVCIid04KbsJnbJVKMZ2%2BcZyHWEov7hVsD0OjM%3D&reserved=0 > > > ________________________________ > > ⚠ External Email: This email originated from outside of the organization. > Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender. >
