On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 8:26 PM, Niall Pemberton
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 7:13 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> To echo Caleb's post to the HAWQ ML:
>>
>> In case you haven't been watching the Apache general list there is an
>> interesting thread on the Apache Sentry project and their graduation from
>> incubator.
>>
>>
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201511.mbox/browser
>>
>> Lots of discussion on what is required from a community growth perspective
>> for an incubator.  Good lessons to think about as we are trying to build
>> our own community around Geode and MADlib.
>>
>
> The two biggest challenges IMO facing Geode:
>  1. Transitioning from an internal closed development model to a public
> open one
>  2. Bringing in new project members from outside Pivotal to create a
> diverse, vibrant community
>
> The success or failure of the first impacts the second. The measure of the
> first is how much discussion and decision making regarding Geode is taking
> place within Pivotal compared to whats here on the mailing list or JIRA.
> When the answer is pretty much everything is in the public domain, then
> you'll have it cracked.

Couldn't agree more! As an insider, I must say that I'm very pleased with
how much progress the internal Pivotal team has made since April in
terms of trying to push discussions and decision making into the open.
But that, of course, is a view of somebody who have seen the internal
process transform. On the outside there's still tons for us to improve.

One particular area where I think we need to focus on is bootstrapping
a robust user community of Apache Geode. This is one of the most
effective way to keep the project honest about how transparent and fair
its governance model is. Right now we don't really have anything for
the user community to rally around and that's why one of my top priorities
is to get first release of Geode (alpha) out.

Thanks,
Roman.

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