Dain Sundstrom wrote:

On Jun 9, 2005, at 6:10 PM, Neal Sanche wrote:

Hi Dain, and David,

Well, I'm not as experienced with Maven as I am with Ant, so that may be the reason for my question. I will definitely give the topic a look, and read through the maven plugin source code when I have time to see what it's doing. Thanks for the pointers.


It is great to have you back!

Definitely good to be back, thanks.


I am doing some in depth learning of what has occurred in Geronimo since my attention span slipped sometime last year. I've written and deployed my first very small JSP application with JDBC connector, and was able to do a database query and print some results. So, being encouraged by that I decided to understand more about the deployer, and hence my question.


Nice. If you get some time, it would be cool to add your sample code to the wiki so others can try it out.

Well, as it happens, I was hired to write an article on getting a JSP application running with Geronimo for IBM. It'll be appearing there soon (when drafts and so on are completed). I'll definitely post a link so it can be wikified. I'm currently working on my next article, and it's turning out to be somewhat ambitious, I think. My previous post hinted at the fact that I'm trying to get a recent Struts working inside Geronimo, and I'm working through all of the details to build the application from XDoclet, I have to show at least one EJB (I'm trying to get a CMP and a SLSB running... Here's what I'm doing in brief:

Maven is doing XDoclet processing of a couple of EJBs, and some Struts actions, and producing an ejb-jar, a .WAR, and bundling those inside an .EAR file. I've got deployment plans embedded for all of the modules, but I found that the .WAR one isn't really necessary right now. Anyway, I'm able to get Maven to start and stop and undeploy and deploy the .EAR. That seems to be working very well, much better than my old ANT script, that's for sure.

Well, once the application is deployed, I can hit some of the pages, which use many Struts taglib tags, and they work. But, as mentioned in my other recent post, I'm having some difficulties with class resolution for a couple of the classes inside the WEB-INF/classes directory. Very strange, still trying to track that one down. I may end up simplifying the application and leaving Struts out for now so I can move forward. But, I'd rather not do that if I can figure out why it's not happy.


I'm pretty sure my server was running the RuntimeDeployer configuration, but since I am new to your deployment plan based deployer, I may have done something that caused it not to be there for a while when I was seeing the problems. I guess it's the price paid for extreme modularity, so only experience can help me (definitely not a fault).


Please don't lower the bar. Just because we have a modular structure doesn't mean we need to have a harder to understand server. For example, I consider the fact that the deployer doesn't complain when the RuntimeDeployer isn't deployed a HUGE bug. Also when it complains it should say "The org/apache/geronimo/RuntimeDeployer configuration is not running in your server. To start it, simply execute java -jar start org/apache/geronimo/RuntimeDeployer". Or even better, it could say "The org/apache/geronimo/RuntimeDeployer configuration is not running in your server. Would you like to start it now? [N/y]"

Can you file a bug report on this?

I would, Dain, but it's not doing it anymore.


So far I am quite happy to be back. I'll let you know if I have questions.


Please do. We are at the stage where feedback on what is hard to understand, frustrating, or just weird is critical to the success of this project.

Okay, I'll do my best.

-Neal

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