On Jul 1, 2005, at 4:28 PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote:

A couple of questions:

* Is there any legal expose for the ASF in doing this. I would think
that at a minimum we would need to state that there was no endorsement
  explicit or implied for any of the things listed.

Yep. Indeed.


* What, if any, validation would we do that the description was
  accurate e.g. that XYZ Consulting actually does what is described?
  Does that create any risk of endorsement?

In the past, I've only done it based on the outfit wishing to be added telling us what they want on there, and then us using our good sense to keep it descriptive rather than "creating marketing". I've personally never had to reject though - I think that the community thing keeps people from getting too exuberant.


* What are the policies for dealing with disputes and/or removal?
  E.g. if ABC Co. disagrees with what XYZ said?

Again, we want to keep it simple and descriptive - if XYZ says "Apache Geronimo consulting and services" we'd be ok, but if they said "leading provider of Apache Geronimo consulting and services" we'd not allow that anyway (or I'd vote against it...)

For disputes, I think we leave it up to the PMC to be the final arbiter here...


* Do we clean up entries after a period of time if the
  project/company dies?

Sure... if the link to the company dies, then we remove it.


Should we run this by legal-discuss or is it something that has been clarified before with other projects?

We've done it before elsewhere for years without a problem. I'm willing to give it a whirl here...

To me, the point is really to let people know what resources are available in the community, and thus if we keep the pointers to projects, products and service providers simple and factual, like a "white pages", we should be ok.

geir


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Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:

This came up in a previous thread.
Does anyone have a problem with a page as described above in the Subject line? Many projects have this (e.g. http:// jakarta.apache.org/velocity/powered.html) and in my experience, it's a great help in building community, both to show people are proud to be using the software, as well as give info for people looking to use.
I'd suggest that :
a) Categories :
     - Open-source projects powered by Geronimo
     - Commercial offerings related geronimo
          - products
          - support and services
          - etc
b) names are in alpha order to promote fairness and make things easier to find (because we all hope this list grows really, really long... :) c) We have some link either to the project, product and/or service offering I'll go forward with this assuming silent consensus as there were no protests to the suggestion when Aaron brought it up, but would like to see explicit support and candidates for inclusion on the list (e.g. IBM is obvious, BEA sorta, and would like everyone that does consulting and is willing to advertise that fact to step forward as well :)
geir




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