On Jul 9, 2005, at 5:09 PM, David Blevins wrote:

On Sat, Jul 09, 2005 at 04:28:47PM -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:

Thanks for keeping this subject, "subproject", out of the trifork
thread.  I think that they are independent issues and we should
quickly decide on how we work with TriFork and can talk about sub-
project structure independently...


Yea, but I do think it is related to the subproject concept. IIRC, we're not going to see much code for a few weeks anyway. So no harm in gathering experiences.

Still waiting to hear from Dims on WS sub projects or any other ASF Members with experience to share.

I mentioned Jakarta too...

Maybe you could share how things work at OpenEJB? I see that the CVS appears to be divided into several top-level directories :

/contrib
/openejb
/openejb-sfnet
/openejb1
/website

Are these treated differently? I assume that they have different release cycles (where appropos...)? Committers have broad access?

I suspect that the answers are "no", "yes" and "yes" and is generally how I think our subprojects should work :

1) Distinct partitioning of the subprojects
2) Broad committer access to enable a strong community, with the community value that when entering a new area, be respectful of what's there, ask questions when you don't understand, etc... 3) Separate release cycles so that the parts are easy to depend on both within the project and without
4) Single PMC overview and responsibility


For example, I could see us doing a "Geronimo The Container" subproject, so that we have a clean separation of our generally- useful-and-not-dependent-on-J2EE container and component infrastructure, a "Geronimo J2EE COnfiguration" subproject (which produces the Container+Configuration that is the J2EE 1.4 certified server), a website+documentation subproject, and other things, like Dain's alternative implementation of the kernel that he has at gbean.org, or if over time (long time) the ORB was able to be a standalone thing, the "GeronimORB" subproject (although for now, that's not anyones intention, IIRC)

geir
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