On Aug 1, 2005, at 12:41 AM, David Jencks wrote:


On Jul 31, 2005, at 8:29 PM, Dain Sundstrom wrote:


On Jul 31, 2005, at 4:39 PM, David Jencks wrote:


I've reviewed the original discussion on this topic. I'm rather appalled that dain appears to regard this discussion as resulting in a technical -1 forcing removal of the current gbean name code. I would regard this attitude as an attempt to divide the geronimo community in an extremely unproductive direction, so I certainly hope I have misunderstood his position.


That was an incredibly negative thing to write, and I take offense.

To clarify, it is my understanding that the Apache Software Foundation will not allow us release software that has a standing technical veto. There are several standing technical vetos on this subject, and several of the +1s on this subject are +1 to put a feature back into the software. I understand that people don't like to use the -1 but a +1 to revert a change is a effectively a -1.


My apologies. Upon further thought, I realize I have often been using -1 (and +1 to "put it back") to mean "I think there's a better way to do this, lets talk about it some more" rather than "I'm vetoing this". I assumed with no justification everyone else was doing the same. But, you are completely correct, we (including me) did -1 some features, and according to apache rules we have to resolve the situation before we ship. I am going to have to be more careful in the future about my unwarranted assumptions.

These are our rules too :)  We are them, and they is us.


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Geir Magnusson Jr                                  +1-203-665-6437
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