+1 on hosting the Eclipse tooling for Geronimo, but wouldn't it be more useful for everyone if its integrated into the main trunk, so it can be built and shipped with a given server level for runtime application deployment and debugging?
-Donald --- "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone else have any comments or objections > before we go down > this path? > > geir > > On Aug 1, 2005, at 5:29 PM, Sachin Patel wrote: > > > Great. I assuming no one else has any strong > objections. If not, > > I'll be glad to start driving this. I'm not sure > about the > > licensing issues... I'll shoot of a note to the > eclipse folks. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > > > >> I think it would be great to have it here. > >> > >> Question - we would need to have it re-licensed > under the Apache > >> License v2.0. Is that possible? > >> > >> geir > >> > >> On Jul 29, 2005, at 9:28 PM, Sachin Patel wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Hello all, > >>> > >>> It seems as if a decision needs to be made to > determine the > >>> appropiate place to host the Eclipse tooling > support for > >>> Geronimo, in particular the Geronimo Server > Adapter that is > >>> currently in development in the Eclipse - WTP > project. > >>> > >>> > http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/os-gerplug/ > >>> > >>> As I've made enhancements to this Geronimo > tooling support, I've > >>> been forced to pull in Geronimo runtime > dependencies, for access > >>> not only to the Geronimo runtime itself but to > JEE spec jars. > >>> > >>> Discussions have arose as I've been working with > the Eclipse WTP > >>> team to push these changes in. It is their > belief that if this > >>> server adapter is pulling in third party jars > then it falls > >>> under the category of being a full-fledged > adapter that is too > >>> large to host and be a part of WTP. The > existing adapters for > >>> the other application servers that are included > in WTP are > >>> lightweight and serve primarily as examples for > basic support. > >>> There has been some discussion planning to > provide the JMX jars > >>> and a set of utilties as part of WTP that other > server adapters > >>> can exploit. However this is not expected > until WTP 1.5 in June > >>> 06 at the earliest. This is not good for the > Geronimo > >>> community. We need an immediate place to host > this source so > >>> the community can have the latest source to > start using, opening > >>> bugs and feature requests, and contributing to > it. As everyone > >>> works hard toward the completion of the > Geronimo's first release > >>> it would be great if we had a good start for > tooling support to > >>> go along with 1.0. > >>> > >>> So the first decision we need to come to is > where should this be > >>> hosted? The first option is creating a > sourceforge project and > >>> build a secondary community around it. The > other, is to host on > >>> Apache itself as part of the Geronimo project. > The latter I > >>> feel is a much better option as by simply > including it as part > >>> of the Geronimo project itself, it provides a > much stronger > >>> integration statement to the existing > community. So the Apache > >>> Geronimo project would include not only the > development of > >>> server itself but also the tooling that goes > along with it. > >>> > >>> So the proposal is that we create a seperate > branch for tooling > >>> in subversion and host the source there. The > next step would be > >>> to provide the build and packaging > infrastructure to go around > >>> it and to be able to pull down dependencies to > build which > >>> include Eclipse, WTP, and of course the > Geronimo runtime itself. > >>> > >>> Thoughts, objections, comments??? > >>> > >>> Thank you, > >>> > >>> Sachin. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > Geir Magnusson Jr > +1-203-665-6437 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
