I agree with Jeremy. One other aspect to consider is that technology is constantly changing. If we settle on terminology today that isn't confusing for either tomcat or jetty that doesn't mean that it won't cause confusion for container X in the future. We will never be able to pick terms that are generic for all time, all containers, all components. I think attempting to come up with some common terminology will also be confusing to the user and will make it difficult to explain concepts that are similar or very different between containers. If we do end up with some common mapping, then I think we need to pick the most obvious terminology for the user. Most users will consider "host" to be the IP host name and so I think we should use that term in general and cover the appropriate mapping to tomcat or jetty in documentation. The user will have to coordinate settings between many different elements and using common terms will make that much easier than avoiding those terms because they bring specific meaning to some particular component.
Joe

Jeremy Boynes wrote:

Aaron Mulder wrote:

I disagree -- I think it's important to have a common management interface (currently, for example, NetworkConnector), and having the same properties called something different in every networkable GBean totally defeats that.


I agree a common management interface is desirable. Unfortunately the containers we are integrating appear to have little in common. From what I hear Jeff saying, apparently simple concepts like "host" differ.

What this means is that we will need substantial extensions to the "common" interface to deal with these container specific concepts; the lowest common denominator is proving to be too low.

This does mean more work for us: alternative deployment infrastructure, alternative management APIs, multiple management portlets, and so on. However, it provides a simple and more intuitive interface for the user so should be done.

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Jeremy



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