On Oct 11, 2005, at 2:18 PM, Dave Colasurdo wrote:

Quite frankly, I'm not sure I see the value of having multiple web containers simultaneously active within geronimo. Has anyone heard of a use case or user that is asking for this support?

I don't think there is any practical use for it outside of experimenting with both web containers at once. It also makes running the tck much easier.

IMHO, I suspect the vast majority of users will choose a single web container (at build or install time) and stick with it. If future requirements dictate a switch to a different container, then laying down a new installation doesn't seem unreasonable. In fact, Geronimo doesn't currently even support incremental maintenance. I would think the use case for non-destructive upgrade would be much more prevalent than changing internal components on the fly.

While simultaneous active web containers would be a technical feat, I'm really not sure the overhead and added confusion to users are worth the payoff.. My $.02

I prefer to keep this as standard at this point to ensure that our architecture remains clean enough to support it. I look forward to the installer being sophisticated enough to be able to include the correct components for only one web container. At the moment, it includes all components and only starts selected ones.

thanks
david jencks


Thanks
Dave


Joe Bohn wrote:
I know I keep beating on this but IMO this is another problem of the multiple container configuration and single image delivery. It would be equally problematic to attempt to start both the tomcat & jetty console or welcome configurations simultaneously even in just a single container configuration. I think we will have problems like this until we come to the point where we deliver two images that include only the peripheral configurations that are applicable to the particular image (one for tomcat and one for jetty). I'm willing to eat my words if I hear a proposal on how we can avoid problems like these. I just don't see a clear solution to problems with our current approach unless we get a lot more sophisticated with conversion capability (and even then I think the user will be confused when s/he sees multiple configurations for the same applications even if they all work).
Joe
anita kulshreshtha wrote:
   I have built M5 from the source. I am running the
default configuration (Jetty and Tomcat). I start The
following configurations :
org/apache/geronimo/applications/Welcome/Tomcat and org/apache/geronimo/Console/Tomcat Both theses configurations get started on port 8080. Even though Tomcat is running on port 8090: Before I investigate further, is this a known
problem?

Thanks
Anita


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