+1 Great ideas
-dain
On Oct 17, 2005, at 7:21 AM, Dave Colasurdo wrote:
anita kulshreshtha wrote:
IMHO, We should divide our efforts according to
the following target audience:
1. Beginers : I would like university students to
download G to learn JSP, Servlets, EJBs and Web
Sevices. The apps should be predeployed in G, so that
they can be run by clicking the 'start' button. We
should develop one EJB and one Web Services example
following the Tomcat JSP/Servlets examples. These
examples should not have anything specific to Geronimo
or Web Container and should demonstrate the
technology, one concept at a time. 2. Expert Users : Provide a
fairly complex example,
which is ready to be built and illustrates how a good
J2EE app should be written. This example should be
interactive and should demonstrate Geronimo specific
concepts. Thanks
Anita
+1, though would like to limit the samples to only a few small
applications that are easy to remove (servlet/JSP, EJB, and
possibly a web service). Don't want users (especially those that
plan to embed the technology) spending much time removing
samples. I suspect the installer will account for this by
allowing the samples to be selectable. Though we need to make sure
the binary distributions also allow for easy removal of these
default samples.
So, category 2 would encompass what you have described and all
other samples that don't fall into category 1.
The additional samples (ongoing list) should reside on the Wiki..
similar to the migration articles/samples tha Hernan is setting up..
Do you have any simple EJB or Web Services examples available?
Also, in addition to the sample list that we've identified in
earlier conversations. There are struts examples (available in the
struts download) that seem to be structured similar to the tomcat
samples. Suspect these should not be installed by default but
rather made available on the wiki for easy download and deployment.
Thanks
-Dave-
--- Dave Colasurdo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Planning to update the Welcome page to contain a
section for Examples
Something like:
Geronimo Examples
- Servlet examples
- JSP examples
- EJB examples (coming soon)
A few questions..
As you know, the Servlet and JSP examples are from
Tomcat.. Should/can/must we provide credit to Tomcat on this
page (e.g. Servlet examples - courtesy of Apache Tomcat)? This
may
seem strange to the user if they have selected the Jetty web
container
:>)
Jetty users are familiar with these examples : see
http://jetty.mortbay.org/jetty/demoWebApps.html
The servlet/JSP examples are already part of the
Tomcat binary distributions (from the Apache Jakarta Tomcat
website). I've taken the expanded wars from the resulting
installation and
ZIPed them into war files and installed them on geronimo. There
was one
minor tweak in web.xml to remove a LF character that was choking
the g deployer.. So, finally to my question.. How should we
package this
in the geronimo source tree?
1) Checkin the war files and have the build process
deploy it in the binaries. For the installer distribution, I assume
there should be no predeployment at build time but rather just
include
the wars in the image so that the installer can conditionally
install it.
2) Check in to the source tree as an unexploded war
and have the build process pkg it up and deploy it. Same story as
above for the installer.
Lastly, the tomcat examples obviously do not contain
any geronimo unique deployment information. Are there a few simple
deployment attributes that we should showcase in the examples?
Which ones?
-Dave-
Bruce Snyder wrote:
On 10/12/05, Dain Sundstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Good point. Do you want to take a crack at
creating some better
examples?
I'll look into this.. Also, can someone help
clarify the line
between reusing open source and providing unique
project identity.
Basically, I'm wondering if it makes any sense to
reuse the Tomcat
examples (along with a few small additional
enhancements (e.g.
EJBs) as the default sample that gets installed
with geronimo. Or
is it better to create our own Geronimo unique
sample?
Normally, I would say let's make our own, but
Tomcat is the Apache
platform closest to Geronimo, so I think it would
be cool to reuse
their examples as it would make the massive number
of Tomcat users
feel at home in Geronimo.
+1 - Build upon the Tomcat examples where possible
for the exact
reason Dain states above.
Bruce
--
perl -e 'print
unpack("u30","D0G)[EMAIL PROTECTED]&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*"
);'
The Castor Project
http://www.castor.org/
Apache Geronimo
http://geronimo.apache.org/
__________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine
Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
