Ah ... that's the heart of the issue. Based upon the current console
capability, it has primary been a J2EE application server console. From
what I can tell that's primarily been Geronimo's focus as well. All of
the J2EE application servers I've seen have one web container to manage
and host all of the web applications, one ejb container, etc... and I
think this is what the user will expect if we call ourselves a J2EE
application server. This may or may not be in line with what we want
... but in my opinion (at least for the console) this is the current
state of affairs and what I think our users will expect.
On the other hand, if this console is to be a general purpose Geronimo
(ie. G-Bean management) console then I think the organization and the
functionality would be very different. We would want the console to
focus on the management of GBeans (no matter what they contained). We
could build a special configuration or set of configurations to be used
as an J2EE Application Server with it's own console (in addition to the
Geronimo console). Or, we could make the Geronimo console general
purpose enough such that it could be easily extended with management
capability for any hosted component. If that's the case we might have a
"Tomcat Application view" and a "Jetty Application view" rather than
simply an "Application view". We would also ensure that the console
could not only host multiple web containers, but also multiple EJB
containers, portlet containers, databases, etc... There would be no
structure or limit on the types and variety of components.
I may be speaking heresy here ... but I'm just struggling myself with
understanding what we are trying to build and how the console can best
provide management assistance for the end user of Geronimo.
I'm ready for the flaming arrows now and to have my head shaped
appropriately .... that will be for the good as well. :-) I want to be
on the same page with everybody else but I'm not sure what that page is.
Joe
Vamsavardhana Reddy wrote:
Is the console managing Gernonimo or Jetty? I am under the impression
that it is managing Geronimo as such and not any web container. Correct
me if I am wrong.
I do not know if it this Connector portlet improvement is ahead of its
time. I came across some "//todo: handle multiple" comments (against
WebManagers and WebContiners within) in Connector portlet and went ahead
to address those. If the console is for Geronimo, then this improvement
is definitely not ahead of its time.
-Vamsi
On 11/11/05, *Joe Bohn* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
Is this patch adding the ability to add/display tomcat web connectors
from a Web Console that is managing Jetty? If so, then I'm not sure we
want to add this capability just yet. The entire console needs to be
reworked if we decide to support multiple containers simultaneously from
a single console.
We will probably want this at some point in time so we should not lose
it. But I'm concerned that adding it now might just cause confusion
for
the user. It would be one of the only portlets addressing management of
more than one container. Most other portlets that work with the web
container only interact with the container that is hosting the console
application itself.
Also, nobody has come up with a scenario where a user would want to run
two web containers. If we do include this then we should at least
ensure that the option to add tomcat connectors is not present for a
jetty only configuration and vice-versa (not sure if the patch does
this).
Nice work but it might be a little ahead of its time.
Joe
Vamsavardhana Reddy (JIRA) wrote:
> [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1152?page=all ]
>
> Vamsavardhana Reddy updated GERONIMO-1152:
> ------------------------------------------
>
> Attachment: connector-moreformbuttons.patch
>
> connector-moreformbuttons.patch: As suggested by Matt, I have
added "Reset", "Clear" and "Cancel" buttons to the forms for editing
HTTP and HTTPS configurations.
>
>
>>Connector portlet does not display all WebConnectors
>>----------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Key: GERONIMO-1152
>> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1152
>> Project: Geronimo
>> Type: Bug
>> Components: console
>> Versions: 1.0-M5
>> Environment: Win XP, Sun JDK 1.4.2_08
>> Reporter: Vamsavardhana Reddy
>> Attachments: connector-moreformbuttons.patch,
connector-withdeleteconfirmation.patch , connector.patch
>>
>>Under WebServer management page, Connector portlet displays only
jetty web connectors and provides links to add only jetty
connectors. It does not display tomcat web connectors nor does it
provide links to add tomcat connectors.
>
>
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