Sorry for the confusion I have created.
I did talk to Dave Taylor about using J2 in Geronimo for the
console. The vision for Geronimo and the console has been to support
downloadable plugins to enhance the server. For example, you may
want to download a commerce extension for geronimo that processes
payments for your web application. This could come from an open
source project (using some yet to be defined open payment spec) or a
commercial vendor. With the plugin you would get the jar containing
the plugin classes, and a portlet that we would mount into our
console for configuration and management of the plugin.
This is why I believed that we need J2 since FWIU the version pluto
we use doesn't support dynamic addition of portlets. I also think
that we want our console to be skinnable, so ISVs embedding Geronimo
into their apps can brand the console to their product.
Is this stuff planned for Pluto? I really like the simplicity of
Pluto especially for a console, that you need to work when things are
going wrong in the server.
One other question, does Pluto work well when other portal systems
are installed into the server? I could see us using Pluto for our
console, and J2 for the user land portal.
-dain
On Dec 15, 2005, at 11:39 AM, David H. DeWolf wrote:
Unfortunately, no. Between the geronimo release and several portals
discussions that I ended up getting involved in, I was never able to
follow through (though I did get to meet Aaron breifly).
Part of our portals discussions were that the jetspeed guys really
want jetspeed to be the portal embedded within Geronimo. I believe
that Dain had some conversations with David Sean Taylor about that
approach.
It's my understanding that DST is going to start working on a scaled
down version of jetspeed.
My humble opinion is that Pluto is more light weight and can easily
meet what is needed for the future with a couple of tweeks. There are
also advantages to jetspeed such as the fact that it has a more
vibrant community (in fact, one of the reasons I like the idea of
embedding pluto in geronimo and felix is my hope that it will help
spur interest in pluto).
What are the geronimo developer's thoughts? Are you leaning towards
pluto or jetspeed?
I'm still VERY interested in helping with this effort, so no matter
what the approach I'd like to be involved. I've just started
translating your current configurations into pluto 1.1 configuration
and hope to have it up and running today.
The only hiccup I'll have to get through is that it seems as though
building and running G from source has changed since that last time I
did it. TI can't find the modules/assembly distribution which I used
to use and the wiki still references. Any hints or updated
documentation I should be looking at?
David
On 12/15/05, Joe Bohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Was this discussed at ApacheCon and was some groundwork laid? If so,
can somebody please post the results here?
Was there any discussion of moving Pluto out from the console web
app to
be a base Geronimo component (like the Servlet or EJB containers)?
This would make it possible for Geronimo to host end user
portals. Any
discussion about the advantages/disadvantages of switching from the
Pluto Portal to something like JetSpeed2?
I'm very interested in helping with this effort and perhaps
simplifying
the console build/packaging structure as we upgrade the Portal and
possibly extend support for user portals.
Joe
Aaron Mulder wrote:
Sounds great to me, but I'm probably not going to have a ton of time
to work on this in the immediate future on account of getting 1.0
out
the door and so on. I'd love to at least talk at ApacheCon and lay
the groundwork for moving forward with Pluto 1.1 for the next
Geronimo
version.
Thanks,
Aaron
On 12/8/05, David H. DeWolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The Pluto team is preparing to release pluto-1.1-ALPHA. In
addition to
simplifying the container to be much easier to embed and
customize, we
have added support for runtime portlet deployment. I understand
that
this is something that you guys might be interested in.
I have begun looking at your webconsole and think plugging in
1.1 should
be pretty simple. If you're interested, I'd love to work with
some of
you at ApacheCon and help you get upgraded.
Let me know,
David
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