On 3 Feb 2006, at 13:45, Paul Fremantle wrote:
James

I'm sure you want a single strong community around JBI. But a BPEL is a specification that is completely independent of JBI and indeed of Java.

You're talking about the BPEL XML language; I'm talking about a Java based orchestration engine.


If you make the argument that everything that can be potentially used as a JBI component is part of ServiceMix then you pretty much include every part
of the JBI stack.

I'm not arguing for everything that can *potentially* be used as a JBI component, I'm saying everything that *should* be used as a JBI component within a JBI container (in this case to orchestrate other JBI components) should ideally be developed within the Apache JBI community.


A BPEL server is an excellent project for Apache. I for one am very excited
about the possibility of engaging in that project .

Why don't you join the Agila project then?


I'm very keen for Sybase
to donate this code. But you can make it integrate closely into ServiceMix
without it being tightly coupled.

Its not about coupling, its about what is the standards based container and component model for a Java based orchestration engine. Note that one of the whole points of JBI is that it defines a component model so that any JBI component can run in any JBI container such as ObjectWeb's Petals or Sun's OpenESB or any other commercial JBI container.

James
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