I agree. While opinions are valuable, when they are collected in
emails like this they become dangerous and harmful.
--jason
On Mar 17, 2006, at 10:32 AM, David Blevins wrote:
Seriously, people. Let's refrain from sensational emails whose
only point is to make things worse.
We are all here cause we want to work together and make great
communities, software and a better ASF.
-David
On Mar 17, 2006, at 10:23 AM, lichtner wrote:
I wanted to see what this incubation problem is all about, so I
took a
look at the web site http://incubator.apache.org/resolution.html .
It says that the B.o.D. has determined that it's in "the best
interests of
the Foundation" to create this incubator PMC charged with "providing
guidance", to help products engender "their own collaborative
community",
and "educating" new developers.
So you do not want to get incubated by Apache unless:
- You care deeply about the Apache Foundation.
- You project needs "guidance."
- You need your project to have a "community."
Philosophy eventually rises up to the surface. This resolution may
explain
why we are seeing so many emails about ActiveMQ graduating etc.
The Apache Foundation is generous to provide resources to open-source
projects, but this is not an entirely selfless act. If your project
consists of one person, it does not qualify as a good ASF project
because
it doesn't have a "community", for example. If your project doesn't
believe in democracy then it's not a good ASF project.
Personally, I would not get a project incubated to help ASF be all
it can
be. I don't necessarily care about ASF, I do care about the Apache
httpd
and the other projects which are hosted by ASF but which might as
well be
hosted somewhere else.
I think that if Geronimo is at odds with ASF's idealistic, abstract
motivations it should pack up its code and move somewhere else
where it
can focus on coding. If they are only staying for the free
services then
perhaps IBM can donate those.
Not to mention that the project is so big it could have its own
foundation ...
