Or Maven for that matter. In fact, we chould just snarf their entire
docco setup and use that as a starting point.
-David
On Jun 12, 2006, at 10:32 AM, Jeff Genender wrote:
-1...there is a large spot here for plugins...especially ones under
the
ASF license. I am still against the geronimoplugins.com thing as it
still needs addressing.
I personally think we, as geronimo, should have a system that is very
similar in nature to Eclipse plugins. I do not see why we cannot
manage
that here...and allow links that point to other sites for
plugins...just
like eclipse does.
Jeff
Aaron Mulder wrote:
I gather from what you're saying you don't think the Geronimo project
should host any plugins? How do others feel?
Thanks,
Aaron
On 6/12/06, Matt Hogstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
As you say since plugins are not owned by the Geronimo project
(ASF),
not released by the Geronimo
project and are not under the oversight of the porject perhaps the
best thing to do is to put in an
HTML link pointing to www.GeronimoPlugins.com and that way that
project can manage the releases,
interdependncies, etc. I think its a nice clean break.
When Geronimo hosts its own plugins then it would make sense for
us to
document them here.
I don't think we should host documentation as part of the Geronimo
Project that is not under ASF
license.
The plugin framework is part of Geronimo...the content is not and is
hosted externally. I think
this is the division.
Matt
Aaron Mulder wrote:
On 6/12/06, Hernan Cunico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
As far as I can see, plugins are part of Geronimo and they
should be
in the 1.1 documentation space.
I diasgree. Plugins will be versioned separately from Geronimo,
and
will not all be developed by the Geronimo team. What will we do
with
the Geronimo 1.1 documentation if Plugin Foo is at version 1.0 when
Geronimo 1.1 ships, but Plugin Foo goes through version 1.1,
1.2, and
1.3 before Geronimo 1.2 ships? Will we constantly be updating the
Geronimo 1.1 documentation? I don't think that makes sense.
I think there should be a Plugins space with the Plugin Foo
documentation. In the Geronimo 1.1 documentation we can include a
list of known available plugins with references to their individual
documentation pages, or we can actually repeat some common usage of
popular plugins, but I don't think we should try to capture the
current state of all plugins (and either have it get terribly
outdated
or need frequent changes to the "finished" parts of the 1.1
documentation).
The plan is, as I proposed several times in earlier emails, to
move
all the content from MoinMoin to
Confluence. Most of the content in the MoinMoin is outdated or
duplicated, the docs that are still
valid should be moved to a section within the new structure in
confluence. Those topics that don't
fit either the User's or Developer's guide should go into the
Geronimo
SandBox space which is
version independent. This space should hold historical data
like the
logo contest for example.
OK. Who's going to do that migration? Also, I have to say, I
don't
think that putting documentation in a different Wiki is going to
automatically keep it up to date. It's a nice opportunity to clean
up, but I imagine we'll need a regular cleaning process if we don't
want our Wiki to get out of date.
Thanks,
Aaron
Aaron Mulder wrote:
I'd like to add some documentation for specific plugins to a
Wiki. I
don't know if the plan is to migrate pretty much everything to
Confluence or only keep our main documentation there and use
MoinMoin
for the rest or what.
Still, if we're documenting available plugins, that's probably
more or
less project documentation, and should go in Confluence anyway.
Could
someone with admin access create an Apache Geronimo Plugins
space?
(The plugins will be on a separate release track from Geronimo
so I
don't think the plugin docs should necessarily go in the 1.1
docs.)
Thanks,
Aaron