Dain Sundstrom wrote: > I see a lot of whining in this thread an not a lot of coding. If you > ask me, if Jeff, John or anyone in the projects feels that we need an > alternative to the javaplugins site, all they have to do is sit down and > put together a site. At that point we have have an open discussion on > the default link. We had a nice open discussion about the default link > a while back and concluded it the javaplugins site was fine since there > is only one site available, and when this state changes, I expect the > default to change. >
Perfect example of our "excellent" communication skills. "Whining" vs coding? Where does what occurred have anything to do with coding? This is a total obfuscation of the issue entirely. The issue is communication...communication...communication...not the plugins site. I truly have a problem expressing this, don't I? > Frankly, I think it is time to separate the talkers from the doers. > > -dain > > On Jun 14, 2006, at 4:11 PM, Jeff Genender wrote: > >> Hiram Chirino wrote: >>> Hi Jeff, >>> >>> All I'm saying is I don't care if IBM puts up >>> http://www.ibm.com/wasce/plugins, I also don't care if you put up a >>> http://virtuas.com/geronimo/plugins site. >>> >>> Now the default link issue is something else. Can we point it by >>> default at some Apache machines by default? I'm sure Aaron would not >>> mind, would you? >>> >>> We do things like this all the time. Our maven builds are TOTALLY >>> dependent on non asf hardware. If ibiblio or codehaus go down, I >>> think we would have some serious issues trying to build geronino and >>> friends. And I may be wrong but I think Aaron's site was similar in >>> that it was just providing free hosting for artifacts. Or an I wrong? >> >> That is a great question. If Aaron's intention was to make an ibiblio >> of sorts, this could have been discussed and it may have passed muster. >> The key missing component was the discussion ;-) >> >> I am surely interested in intent...the goals...the barriers to entry, or >> lack thereof regarding this site. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jeff
